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Can't decide on what card to get, Fury or the Fury X,the extra performance of the X looks nice but the card has coil whine and possibly pump noise. The Asus Fury Strix I had was extremely silent most of the time until the fan broke. Another thing is that during heavy loads the Asus card became quite noisy with the cooler, leading me to suspect that the Fury X would be more silent overall.

Perhaps the next thing to try would be a Sapphire Fury?

I'm trying to pick a Fiji card as well, and I'm very picky about acoustics. So my concern with the Sapphire card is the coil whine mentioned. But from some sound recordings, like this one, I note the Asus card also has a coil whine:
https://youtu.be/oD7i75sqFSk

And seeing how much quieter Sapphire's cooler is in this comparison:
https://youtu.be/PEGJoE1Pswg

...Leads me to wonder if the Asus's booming fans don't just mask its coil whine, though I imagine the whine is different as the Asus has a different 12-phase custom power delivery system.

I might well buy a Sapphire Fury in the next few days, if I do I'll let you know how it sounds.
To be honest as the owner of two Sapphire Tri-X's only my top card has any sort of coil whine. It isn't even whine. It's more like coil "buzz". The main thing is however, 99% of the time I do not hear anything from the card. And when I do happen to hear it, it does not bother me. My machine sits 1 1/2 meters away from me and I can barely hear the buzz, when I do happen to hear it. And that's with my side-panel off. With the panel on I do not hear a thing.
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I respect your view, having spent some time with my cards Vram is not my issue. I don't intend to play games at these resolutions with everything maxed out. The vram issue is being blown out of proportion for most users. Can i make Vram an issue for my usage? Sure i could. Also it's obvious the next generation gpu's can run something better. They should or were in trouble.

Oh no, I never said anything about GPU power. I was strictly talking about vRAM needs/requirements whilst gaming running those eyefinity resolutions. Obviously you can lower a game's settings to not run into vRAM issues but frankly I am not the type of person that sacrifices visual fidelity for higher resolution. I want both so if you want to have high game settings at those resolutions its not a matter of GPU horsepower its strictly a matter of how much vRAM you have at your disposal as its already a given you will require multiple GPUs to handle those eyefinity resolutions anyways.
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Gpu power and vram go hand in hand. I have 4x290x i was just using, and where i had vram issues the furyx doesn't. I also tried 390x and while spots where vram had been an issue for my 290x the gpu power couldn't make up for it. So 290x and 390x gave the same performance just about and so even though i could turn up settings cause i had more vram the fps was still too low. Fury is doing better because the gpu horsepower is there. Yeah i can tap out the vram if i want by using say AA. Graphical fidelity is not exactly straight forward either, just because a game offers all these settings doesn't mean they are good. Most games offer post processing options and all it does is add, motion blur, depth of blur, more blur oh and more blur we hope you don't notice.


Its really up to your usage, as you say you want max settings. There are many games that run very poorly at max settings even at 1080 or 4k. Obviously going higher isn't going to work. Do you use AA in all games at 4k?
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So Sapphire advised that I switch the vBIOS switch to the other position. (In this case, from Left to Right as you face the big glowing Radeon) still got the "This VGA Card is not UEFI Compatible) message. What's funny is that when you submit a support ticket, they even call the card the R9 Fury X (UEFI). It's crazy.


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Gpu power and vram go hand in hand. I have 4x290x i was just using, and where i had vram issues the furyx doesn't. I also tried 390x and while spots where vram had been an issue for my 290x the gpu power couldn't make up for it. So 290x and 390x gave the same performance just about and so even though i could turn up settings cause i had more vram the fps was still too low. Fury is doing better because the gpu horsepower is there. Yeah i can tap out the vram if i want by using say AA. Graphical fidelity is not exactly straight forward either, just because a game offers all these settings doesn't mean they are good. Most games offer post processing options and all it does is add, motion blur, depth of blur, more blur oh and more blur we hope you don't notice.


Its really up to your usage, as you say you want max settings. There are many games that run very poorly at max settings even at 1080 or 4k. Obviously going higher isn't going to work. Do you use AA in all games at 4k?

Hell to the no. I don't even touch AA in anything other than DX9 titles where all that horsepower is sitting there idling. Running AA at 4K barely even makes a discernible difference as I am sure you already noticed running eyefinity. I presume that a panel's pixel density comes into play here too but I can't particularly claim that with certainty. As I understand it Fiji and Hawaii manage vRAM differently though so I am not surprised that you're able to get better usage of your vRAM on those Fiji cards than you did on either of your Hawaii gen cards.
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Gpu power and vram go hand in hand. I have 4x290x i was just using, and where i had vram issues the furyx doesn't. I also tried 390x and while spots where vram had been an issue for my 290x the gpu power couldn't make up for it. So 290x and 390x gave the same performance just about and so even though i could turn up settings cause i had more vram the fps was still too low. Fury is doing better because the gpu horsepower is there. Yeah i can tap out the vram if i want by using say AA. Graphical fidelity is not exactly straight forward either, just because a game offers all these settings doesn't mean they are good. Most games offer post processing options and all it does is add, motion blur, depth of blur, more blur oh and more blur we hope you don't notice.


Its really up to your usage, as you say you want max settings. There are many games that run very poorly at max settings even at 1080 or 4k. Obviously going higher isn't going to work. Do you use AA in all games at 4k?

Cool, I am relieved to hear this cos I went with the 290x instead of the 390. Congrats on 1st rep BTW
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Gpu power and vram go hand in hand. I have 4x290x i was just using, and where i had vram issues the furyx doesn't. I also tried 390x and while spots where vram had been an issue for my 290x the gpu power couldn't make up for it. So 290x and 390x gave the same performance just about and so even though i could turn up settings cause i had more vram the fps was still too low. Fury is doing better because the gpu horsepower is there. Yeah i can tap out the vram if i want by using say AA. Graphical fidelity is not exactly straight forward either, just because a game offers all these settings doesn't mean they are good. Most games offer post processing options and all it does is add, motion blur, depth of blur, more blur oh and more blur we hope you don't notice.


Its really up to your usage, as you say you want max settings. There are many games that run very poorly at max settings even at 1080 or 4k. Obviously going higher isn't going to work. Do you use AA in all games at 4k?

I have tested both the 290's 4GB of VRAM and the 390's 8GB VRAM, with single GPU and with CF for each series of cards, and I completely disagree with everything you have said here..... and I have tested all of the above in 1080, 1440, 4k, and higher VSR scenarios.

The 8GB on the 390 series DOES indeed solve the VRAM issues associated with the Hawaii cards.
Also, adding Fiji GPU's will NOT help with any VRAM limitations with HBM, which I have not tested myself, but have read this information from legit sources, and will post when found.

There are however some good ways around VRAM limitations..... one of them is to turn off your pagefile, or move it to a RAMDISK thumb.gif
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I have tested both the 290's 4GB of VRAM and the 390's 8GB VRAM, with single GPU and with CF for each series of cards, and I completely disagree with everything you have said here..... and I have tested all of the above in 1080, 1440, 4k, and higher VSR scenarios.

The 8GB on the 390 series DOES indeed solve the VRAM issues associated with the Hawaii cards.
Also, adding Fiji GPU's will NOT help with any VRAM limitations with HBM, which I have not tested myself, but have read this information from legit sources, and will post when found.

There are however some good ways around VRAM limitations..... one of them is to turn off your pagefile, or move it to a RAMDISK thumb.gif

I've had a RAMdisk for the last 18mos. Are you saying this is part of why we may not be ever having issue with RAM on our GPU's?
     
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I have tested both the 290's 4GB of VRAM and the 390's 8GB VRAM, with single GPU and with CF for each series of cards, and I completely disagree with everything you have said here..... and I have tested all of the above in 1080, 1440, 4k, and higher VSR scenarios.

The 8GB on the 390 series DOES indeed solve the VRAM issues associated with the Hawaii cards.
Also, adding Fiji GPU's will NOT help with any VRAM limitations with HBM, which I have not tested myself, but have read this information from legit sources, and will post when found.

There are however some good ways around VRAM limitations..... one of them is to turn off your pagefile, or move it to a RAMDISK thumb.gif

I think maybe i am misunderstood on this. I am not saying 39x series doesn't help with the extra vram. What i am saying is with the extra vram my settings didn't change much because the gpu was already struggling. While fiji has more gpu power i was able to depending on the game to actually either up a few settings or keep them the same and get way better fps. I can use higher settings than my 290x on some titles where vram seemed to be a hard limit. For my usage i found the fiji gives me more room than 390x or 290x. This is not a blanket statement or to persuade someone to get something and i am not trying to justify my purchase. What works for me doesn't work for others. When i look at costs for my setup, the price for upgrading from 290x to 390x gave me almost nothing in return. Going further up the ladder furyx gave me more to work with. This is again is my personal scenario, and doesn't fit everyone else.
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I think maybe i am misunderstood on this. I am not saying 39x series doesn't help with the extra vram. What i am saying is with the extra vram my settings didn't change much because the gpu was already struggling. While fiji has more gpu power i was able to depending on the game to actually either up a few settings or keep them the same and get way better fps. I can use higher settings than my 290x on some titles where vram seemed to be a hard limit. For my usage i found the fiji gives me more room than 390x or 290x. This is not a blanket statement or to persuade someone to get something and i am not trying to justify my purchase. What works for me doesn't work for others. When i look at costs for my setup, the price for upgrading from 290x to 390x gave me almost nothing in return. Going further up the ladder furyx gave me more to work with. This is again is my personal scenario, and doesn't fit everyone else.

Now I get you... thumb.gif
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