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Having your PC as close as 30 cm from your sitting place is always horrible idea, you can hear every little buzz and whine from this place. I was talking about having PC below the desk. Having PC on the desk is just asking for acoustic issues. But with coil whine it is a bit different, it will whine all around the room and no sound dumped case or desk can stop it anyway.

I currently have no sort of organization in my office space but will change that soon when I'm done with my build and reorganized the office.
I don't like having my pc on the floor since dust is sucked in the case and honestly the PC isn't that loud, fans run about 600- 900 rpm and don't mind having it near me, its the coil whine that is just killing the set up.
My last XFX 390X in CF had a really bad coil whine, were they squeaked at anything demanding and had to return then.
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Killawatt peaked at ~1250w.
 
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Time spy is useless. Apparently this is just another bought out from nVidia. It did not tap on Async compute at all to favor nvidia hardware. Really shouldn't waste 5 dollars on this.mad.gif
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http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13368347

Killawatt peaked at ~1250w.

good stuff!
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Time spy is useless. Apparently this is just another bought out from nVidia. It did not tap on Async compute at all to favor nvidia hardware. Really shouldn't waste 5 dollars on this.mad.gif

While it may have it's issues, its a benchmark thats going to see a lot of use probably even in reviews. 5 dollars isn't much to get upset over. However maybe things will get better.

People using more than 2 gpus need to be aware of a current issue with the benchmark: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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It is LDA Explicit, or Linked-Node Explicit Multi-adapter. Identical GPUs only, but with tasks related to mGPU dispatching handled by the engine, not the driver.

Problem with MDA is that if you do it like Ashes of Singularity, you get at best 2x the slowest GPU and everyone would be complaining why 3DMark isn't using all the resources of both GPUs. And to do it so that it would actually use all resources of two wildly different GPUs would require hideously complex code that would somehow "feel out" what the GPUs can do and then somehow load balance them, while responding to variances in performance and... uuuh, it would be very very complex piece of code and potentially a very fragile piece of code.

dGPU + iGPU the gains would be marginal and again the complexity would go through the roof.

I'm not saying a future 3DMark test can't ever support MDA, but Time Spy was designed for Linked-node. Partially because we wanted to ship it in 2016 and not 2017 smile.gif and partially because mixed GPU (NV+AMD) setups basically do not exist outside press test labs.

Now if game developers suddenly decide that MDA is the best way to go and multiple games support NV+AMD mixed cards and everyone starts buying them so NV+AMD mixed setups are relevant for actual gaming, we'll definitely take notice.

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Yes.

Also note that DX12 has some kinks in this regard - more than 2 cards performance will differ with full screen vs. borderless window.

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Yes it does.

Here is an example of a custom run from 3x R9 290X setup using Borderless Window and 4K resolution

Time%20spy%20result%202%20%20Custom%204k%20result%20cards%20overclocked%20._zps91knaqfm.png

I plan to test this, however if there is gains from using border less window this is a custom run test. Its not applicable to HOF/valid/top30, which is quite interesting. I want to see what the differences are first.


So i followed FMJarnis's suggestion and ran quafire furyx stock with only setting borderless window in custom settings leaving rest default and it's saddening. I gained over 1k on gpu score alone with STOCK gpu against my max overclock run ....

test run borderless window stock gpus



max overclock official run stats to compare





That would be huge if it was a valid score where i am at ... mad.gif

Edit added settings shot
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I meant that when using more than 2 GPUs, DX12 full screen path has some... quirks. Borderless window does not have these, so it is definitely possible to get a higher graphics score with 3 and 4 GPUs using Borderless Window.

It is possible Microsoft will improve DX12 exclusive full screen at some point, or vendors do something in drivers, but that's how it works now.

this may apply to Nvidia as well?

Edited by dagget3450 - 7/17/16 at 8:28pm
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Lots of discussion happening right now regarding nvidiamark time spy cheating. And the timing of time spy release makes it even more fishy--->right when AMD cards are gaining significant performance from DOOM Vuklan patch.
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Lots of discussion happening right now regarding nvidiamark time spy cheating. And the timing of time spy release makes it even more fishy--->right when AMD cards are gaining significant performance from DOOM Vuklan patch.

While it may or may not be true, when has there not been bias against AMD. Many of the benchmarks use insane amounts of tessellation or what have you. I guess if its some sort of legit scandal then great but these things usually get swept under the rug. I will treat it like all the other benches so far and just bench anyways cause i like doing it. If anything the questions that come to my mind are simple ones like, where is AA options, Where is the fire strike equivalents of official scoring runs i.e. 1080p/1440/4k like FS/FSE/FSU.

I am not going to get caught up in the drama that may be anywhere from tinfoil hat to brand loyalties. I am going to just try to have some fun.
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Edit: I do get negative scaling in Ashes once I go past 1.256v

+rep for this info share smile.gif.
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I had been using your bench for compares with others and then realised you have 4096SP unlocked, shadowxaero is 3840SP IIRC.

So in this compare is CaNnoN Fury (Fury 3584SP) vs Shadowxaero (Fury 3840SP) vs ozyo (genuine Fury X) vs AndreDVJ (Fury 4096SP)

Still, ran at 1200/550Mhz, absolutely no increase in scores with my hardware.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/90607/spy/13079

I am probably running at the power limit. 1150/550Mhz is stable, and no interest in going further. I'd rather need a new graphics card or add another card.

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Cheers for share smile.gif .

Perhaps your hitting the negative scaling effect thinking.gif, going from 1150 to 1200 is a 4% GPU clock increase I'd expect to see some improvement thinking.gif.

For PL you could check if card is dropping clocks, etc.

On another note the crazy thing I've noted is when I do get negative scaling it's not like GPU clock is being dropped, etc like when we run into PL limit headscratch.gifrolleyes.gif.

I've also been chatting to The Stilt and Mumak concerning A/W readings, hope to soon post about it once more stuff has been discussed / explained to me, doubtful at the moment we'll solve the negative scaling issue frown.gif .

Like you I'm happy with 1145/545 for daily use, but when you do have a card which is showing potential for higher clocks but the performance is lost with voltage increase it sorta sucks frown.gif .
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Hello everyone. Is it normal that my gpu want +36mv for 1100Mhz stable, witch is around 1.23V, and the memory can't go past 520 ? I thing that after Crimson generations drivers, these cards want more voltage, even in some cases with on stock cards ? Like it was with Hawaii/Grenada.
Edited by LionS7 - 7/18/16 at 8:45am
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