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Anyone who recently bought the Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro on Newegg or Amazon care to comment on their coil whine?

I got my from caseking.de, but it doesn't matter where you buy it, as long as it is new and factory sealed. Coil whine is about as bad as on other GPUs in the world. This one is maybe a bit worse, my previous card, MSI 980 Ti Gaming 6G, was slightly better under max load, but it was also whining as soon as it got anything to render, even in menus with V-sync on, so basically no load at all. Coil whine is quite subjective thing, some people are not sensitive to it and some are, for example I hear whine that nobody else in my house can hear and even my camera is also unable to record this sound.

If you are sensitive to this sound then 3m cables and a hole in the wall or ceiling to the other room and placing PC there is the only way to go.
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From what The Stilt has stated about AMD GPUs ASIC quality = LeakageID.
Quote link.

I know this goes against what is shown in GPU-Z info on ASIC quality tab but The Stilt has good information and experience of AMD GPUs. What he has stated held true for me on Hawaii and Fiji. He recently also posted similar info in the Polaris 10 discussion thread.

The truth isn't so simple. Higher ASIC quality means lower operating voltage and less heat output at a certain frequency target. Behavior outside of that target can seem almost completely independent of ASIC quality (though it's not).

Technically, higher ASIC quality means lower leakage, therefore lower power consumption and more overclocking headroom at moderate temperatures (this is in keeping with GPU-z, IIRC). However, temperature and voltage can change leakage dramatically (to the fourth and second powers, respectively), so these properties change as soon as you start tweaking the GPU configuration.

I have a 78.1% ASIC quality R9 290 - a rather good sample. It runs at lower voltage, generates less heat, and can under-volt very well. Give it the slightest extra juice, though, and it all that goes away completely. And, when it's hot, it pulls more power than the average R9 290 (I can easily get my card to pull 420W, at which point I run out of the sensible power limits).

A lower ASIC quality means higher leakage, which requires more voltage to run at its default clocks, which means more baseline consumption, but usually means less extra power is consumed when you overclock. The extra leakage means the transistors, on average, are more willing to switch states - provided you can prevent overheating... which can be a challenge.

So the observation can be that, at normal temperatures, overclocking on a lower ASIC quality GPU can be easier and draw less extra power, but that's because the voltage and power usage floor are already elevated.
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I agree it is not as simple a subject smile.gif and by no means am I "qualified" or have "full experience" on the matter but what The Stilt has stated held true for me smile.gif .

I have seen on higher ASIC quality Fiji GPU I had, they drew more current than lower ASIC quality GPU, even if the higher quality ASIC had lower voltage. Temps were approximately similar, stock cooling with no mods but only fan profile. As I OC'd the higher ASIC quality GPUs they drew more power than lower ASIC quality. One such comparison was where clocks and VID were very close between the 2 GPUs.

I have also had 2 GPUs where they were higher ASIC quality which would mean lower voltage but as they were being deemed "bad ASIC" they were higher voltage than what they should have been IMO (link to post). These cards which were seeming like "bad ASIC" to me, one would not even run f@h at stock stable, where as for some reason 3D loads it had no issue even with moderate OC. I made no changes to rig except used another card and the same work unit that was = BSOD, on the other card worked fine.

So far played with 7 differing Fiji cards.
Edited by gupsterg - 8/7/16 at 9:03am
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Of course I am willing to point you in the right direction smile.gif , post in Fiji bios mod the ROM you wish to modify and questions and we go from there smile.gif .

Great THX Bratan' thumb.gifbiggrin.gif

Maby we can add HBM V into Fiji BIOS?
And Maby i will consider with Adding BIOS Editing tools into my RadeonMOD ? (of course if Makers of it agree to that) so we can Have All in One party.gif
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Anyone who recently bought the Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro on Newegg or Amazon care to comment on their coil whine?
Not from one of those two retailers, but I bought one in the past couple of weeks and have zero coil whine. I do have a good quality PSU in an EVGA Supernova G2 750W, although that didn't stop me returning five different 970s that all had obnoxious coil whine in the same system (I eventually bought a 980 instead that didn't have any).
post #9416 of 11505
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Bought the Sapphire Fury on sale for $300 through Newegg. My coil whine is pretty bad. Others in this thread have suggested that I RMA my card since my ASIC is piss poor as well. Card doesn't take to undervolting well and I dare not OC the card on air because if it could go any higher, it would have been sold as the 1050 mhz variant instead of the 1020 mhz variant I purchased.

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I got my from caseking.de, but it doesn't matter where you buy it, as long as it is new and factory sealed. Coil whine is about as bad as on other GPUs in the world. This one is maybe a bit worse, my previous card, MSI 980 Ti Gaming 6G, was slightly better under max load, but it was also whining as soon as it got anything to render, even in menus with V-sync on, so basically no load at all. Coil whine is quite subjective thing, some people are not sensitive to it and some are, for example I hear whine that nobody else in my house can hear and even my camera is also unable to record this sound.

If you are sensitive to this sound then 3m cables and a hole in the wall or ceiling to the other room and placing PC there is the only way to go.

Thank for the reply. I bought one off amazon and I have some minor coil whine. Its wierd, its not high pitched at 60-75fps like it is at 3000fps. It almost sounds like a bad fan at 60-75 fps. Like a low whirl. Its not the fans though because I ran the card full load without the fans for a bit and it was still there. Going to try running something at high fps overnight to see if it can reduce it. Ore I'll just have to get used to it I guess. I went though the whole return thing with amazon with my LF 29UM67 and the replacement I received was worse then the one I was exchanging. I ended up returning the exchange instead lol.
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I finally got around to undervolting my Fury X. I've had it for more than a year now and I guess I should attempt to undervolt it.

Stock voltage for my Fury X would peak at 1.225mV and the average would hover around 1.19mV - 1.21mV.

I undervolting the card using these settings:
Core Voltage: -36
Power Limit %: -25
Core Clock 1050Mhz

The voltage now peaks at 1.16mV and the average is roughly 1.14mV - 1.15mV. I saw it dip as low as 1.10mV during less stressful parts in the benchmark test.

I ran Heaven Benchmark 4 [Tessellation = Extreme 1440p + 4K], Valley Benchmark 1 [Ultra: 1440p + 4K] and Fire Strike Extreme & Ultra. No artifacts and no crashing.

The temps were around 35c-40c! Wow that's around 5c - 8c lower than what I normally see!
I might try to go lower, but at some point I'm sure I'll need to lower my core clock a little bit.
    
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^^ Looks like the AIO on the Fury X is more than enough to keep it cool 😀
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I finally got around to undervolting my Fury X. I've had it for more than a year now and I guess I should attempt to undervolt it.

Stock voltage for my Fury X would peak at 1.225mV and the average would hover around 1.19mV - 1.21mV.

I undervolting the card using these settings:
Core Voltage: -36
Power Limit %: -25
Core Clock 1050Mhz

The voltage now peaks at 1.16mV and the average is roughly 1.14mV - 1.15mV. I saw it dip as low as 1.10mV during less stressful parts in the benchmark test.

I ran Heaven Benchmark 4 [Tessellation = Extreme 1440p + 4K], Valley Benchmark 1 [Ultra: 1440p + 4K] and Fire Strike Extreme & Ultra. No artifacts and no crashing.

The temps were around 35c-40c! Wow that's around 5c - 8c lower than what I normally see!
I might try to go lower, but at some point I'm sure I'll need to lower my core clock a little bit.

Nice! I have my Fury nitro at -60mv which puts it about 50-55c in games. I left the power limit because I saw a reduction of FPS in games. Not to much only like 5-6 but still I didnt like that. Those temps are awesome, makes me wish id spent the extra 50 on the Fury X but I didnt think my PSU could handle it, its only a 550watt.
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Originally Posted by Kana-Maru View Post

I finally got around to undervolting my Fury X. I've had it for more than a year now and I guess I should attempt to undervolt it.

Stock voltage for my Fury X would peak at 1.225mV and the average would hover around 1.19mV - 1.21mV.

I undervolting the card using these settings:
Core Voltage: -36
Power Limit %: -25
Core Clock 1050Mhz

The voltage now peaks at 1.16mV and the average is roughly 1.14mV - 1.15mV. I saw it dip as low as 1.10mV during less stressful parts in the benchmark test.

I ran Heaven Benchmark 4 [Tessellation = Extreme 1440p + 4K], Valley Benchmark 1 [Ultra: 1440p + 4K] and Fire Strike Extreme & Ultra. No artifacts and no crashing.

The temps were around 35c-40c! Wow that's around 5c - 8c lower than what I normally see!
I might try to go lower, but at some point I'm sure I'll need to lower my core clock a little bit.

These cards are designed to run at 80C~95C without any real worry, why are you so focused on undervolting when you can overclock and still keep it bellow 60C under 100% load?
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