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Hi all, is it worth selling an unlocked 3840 Fury to buy a Fury X? I can probably sell the 3840 Fury for same price as X, but will lose some money on eBay fees. I'm also worried that initial reviews of the X show poor overclocks, whereas the Fury with less shaders have more reviews with better overclocks. So far my 3840 Fury can reach 1110 mhz and 570 memory on custom bios. Timespy graphics score is 5110ish.
 
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Hi all, is it worth selling an unlocked 3840 Fury to buy a Fury X? I can probably sell the 3840 Fury for same price as X, but will lose some money on eBay fees. I'm also worried that initial reviews of the X show poor overclocks, whereas the Fury with less shaders have more reviews with better overclocks. So far my 3840 Fury can reach 1110 mhz and 570 memory on custom bios. Timespy graphics score is 5110ish.

I would say no.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1522?vs=1513

They are extremely close in performance - you would never notice a difference except with the actual scores you write into a spreadsheet.

The RX 480 versus my R9 290, however, is another story. My framerate is so high in BF4 that I am overshooting my 144Hz monitor at 1080p Ultra, so I need to underclock my card... so my system is using like 340W while running 100FPS+ AVG with dips into the 80s in BF4, LOL! Compared to upwards of 420W before, running ~90FPS, with dips to the 60s. I plan on doing some VSR testing later, BF4 looks amazing with some good scaling. Maybe 4K VSR with no AA will be the way.
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Hi all, is it worth selling an unlocked 3840 Fury to buy a Fury X?

I had a Fury Tri-X unlocked to 3840 SP and versus a genuine Fury X with 4096SP they benched pretty much equal other than run to run variance IMO. So not worth the swap IMO, I only swapped cards as was losing no money doing so plus the Fury X was not costing anymore. Only bonus the AIO scores over air cooler was all heat from GPU was being exhausted out of case in my setup.
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Fury (X) gets a big boost from VRAM OC as well.

Not noticed this in 3DM 11 P or X, 3DM FS or FS E, gaming benches again very low gains for HBM OC, similar to gains show in this article. Only thing I see a largish rise is AIDA GPGPU memory copy results, read / write is pretty much the same between 500MHz vs 545MHz.

May I ask what you are seeing big boost in from HBM OC?
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I bought an 8 dollar dvi to dp and it didn't work, and that's because it's not a powered one, look one one that has a usb cable on it, to power it or else it probably won't work. So when you search for one, go along the lines of " dvi to dp/ usb powered"
Yeah I found this one and I only think I can get it up to 82hz by my calculations.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00856WJH8/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_23_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RD124W7W19DA80X1WBHT
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Hi all, is it worth selling an unlocked 3840 Fury to buy a Fury X? I can probably sell the 3840 Fury for same price as X, but will lose some money on eBay fees. I'm also worried that initial reviews of the X show poor overclocks, whereas the Fury with less shaders have more reviews with better overclocks. So far my 3840 Fury can reach 1110 mhz and 570 memory on custom bios. Timespy graphics score is 5110ish.

Got my Nano at 1100Mhz under water doing ~5200 in Time Spy, considering such a small difference I doubt you'd see much gain moving to a Fury X
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I guess I'll be keeping my 3840 Fury. Thanks for all the replies smile.gif
 
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Depending on your mobo, you could always snag a Fury X to crossfire with that Fury devil-smiley-019.gif
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BZ, can you explain further? Are you working around a target for A/W at each DPM or? What kind of results are you seeing?

Thanks

Sorry BT I have to retract what I said earlier. When I first received My Nano there was about a 350-400 point advantage in FS scores with tuning Per DPM. That was with old drivers. With current drivers there is not a significant difference in scores. Temps are 1-2C lower though than using offset voltage.

I was running comparison bench marks with current drivers and saw very little difference. I could not figure out why until I reinstalled older drivers. This also what took me so long to reply. This is a dead end.

It does work with determining correct VID voltage for overclock frequencies. But you could accomplish the same by simple benchmarking.
Out of experience, finding correct VID per DPM at lower frequencies is something that is not so easily done.

My mistake.

EDIT: If you want to set an undervolt value into Bios so that a voltage offset was not necessary in overclocking software this works ok.
Edited by bluezone - 8/20/16 at 10:47pm
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OK today i manage to do some OC Tests for my Nitro-X smile.gif
Using my Customised Driver Set 16.7.3 WHQL + 16.300.2201.0 July 7 WHQL DX9/10/11/12/Mantle + Vulcan from 16.8.2

Here the results:
PhenomII is no Go for it, but 3D score is somewhat OK.

My BIOS is set to 1.212v and have Unlocked CU's + Timing HBM MOD with HBM v MOD to 1.319v
No Over PL is made ->



3Dmark13:
FireStrike P 3.91GHz
10.700 - GPU: 15.399 PhY: 8145 \ 1050/570 -42mV 0% POW 247tW

FireStrike P 4.00GHz
11.117 - GPU: 15.544 PhY: 8476 \ 1050/570 0mV +8% POW 258tW
11.478 - GPU: 16.735 PhY: 8481 \ 1120/570 0mV +10% POW 268tW

FireStrike X 4.00GHz
7048 - GPU: 8077 PhY: 8491 \ 1125/570 0mV +12% POW 280tW
6943 - GPU: 8035 PhY: 8479 \ 1120/570 0mV +10% POW 275tW

Best FireStrike P 4.00GHz GPU score 1122MHz = 16.816

S.o.Mordor:
935/550 1.212v -48mV -14%POW 55%Fan -> 61 154 45 (170tW / HBM 10tW) - FPS CAP 61


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

FS FHD P score:


FS Extreme Score:


Overhead API test:

OC 1120/570 0mV GPU on 1.212v +10% POW 270tW:



My Default 1050/570 -42mV 0% POW 245tW:



Yeah that's How we ROLL on Radeon Fiji thumb.gif
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Sorry BT I have to retract what I said earlier. When I first received My Nano there was about a 350-400 point advantage in FS scores with tuning Per DPM. That was with old drivers. With current drivers there is not a significant difference in scores. Temps are 1-2C lower though than using offset voltage.

I believe current drivers are actually completely broken in regards to memory overclocks. I tried my R9 290 with 16.8.2 and the memory overclocks don't work there, either.

I seem to be the only person that has actually noticed this, so I am going to file a report with AMD.

EDIT: In case you aren't up to date with my saga: memory clocks don't work with the RX 470 or RX 480 with 16.8.1 or 16.8.2, from my experience.

With the RX 470 I was unable to use a driver older than 16.8.1, so I came to suspect a faulty card, but then the card started messing up pretty bad anyway, so I RMA'd it and bought an RX 480 - with 16.7.2 I can overclock the memory fine, but there are other bugs. 16.8.2 has other problems (cursor corruption, for starters), but doesn't crash my games.

It looks that whoever fixed the memory overclocking range in the driver actually broke it.

To check, all you have to do is see if the screen flickers when you set the memory clocks - they should. If not, then the memory clock is not actually being engaged, despite all utilities saying otherwise. You should be able to set any memory clock you want and GPU-z will say you did it, but you will get no memory errors nor any improvement in speed.

UPDATE:

Created a thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1609366/amd-16-8-1-16-8-2-memory-clocks-not-working
Edited by looncraz - 8/21/16 at 6:17am
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