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These Monitor manufactures are just capitalizing on new tech. Basically they are not passing the Free Sync savings to the user. They know people will not get Free Sync over G-Sync for money so they can price it the same.

Aye, I know. People need to realize this. Anyone with any common business sense knew this is what would happen.
post #322 of 708
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Aye, I know. People need to realize this. Anyone with any common business sense knew this is what would happen.

After watching PCPer videos on Free Sync right now it would be really stupid to dish money on Free Sync at its current form/state panels.
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post #323 of 708
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After watching PCPer videos on Free Sync right now it would be really stupid to dish money on Free Sync at its current form/state panels.

Agreed.

Ghosting is the reason why I won't recommend it to anyone ... that and the drivers aren't NEARLY ready yet. Maybe in a month or so (or four, given AMDs SLOW history of releasing drivers), they will have Crossfire and multiple panel issues worked out ... and maybe the panel makers will fix the ghosting problem by Q3 or Q4. Then it might be worth it ... if you have an AMD card.

But now, for that price ... no way I'd touch FreeSync with a 10 foot pole.
post #324 of 708
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Aye, I know. People need to realize this. Anyone with any common business sense knew this is what would happen.

 

Hate to burst your bubble, but that BenQ is being sold from a 3rd Party vendor that jacked up their prices. This monitor is in stock at Newegg for $629.99. Even Amazon's price is stated $629.99 straight from them, but they are out of stock at the moment.

post #325 of 708
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Sorry, but FreeSync monitors ain't cheap ... and they aren't $500 either.

FreeSync - BenQ XL2730Z - 2560x1440 resolution - TN panel - 40-144Hz VR range ..... $740.96

G-Sync - Asus ROG Swift - 2560x1440 resolution - TN panel - 30-144Hz VRR range .... $762.99


So basically FreeSync saves you $22. WOW. Massive savings there. rolleyes.gif

And what do you get for that $22 "OMG, nVidia is so damn expensive" price?

Working drivers NOW. Multiple video card support NOW. And best of all, 10Hz VRR on the low end.

Sorry, but the whole "FreeSync will be $200 more expensive" BS has finally been debunked.
Sorry, to crash your party, but G-Sync/FreeSync haven't yet become the highlight of the day. ULMB-Blur Reduction demonstrate less persistence and "144 Hz + Blur Reduction" > "120 Hz + ULMB".
Post #279, Post #199.
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Got a feeling OEMs will just continue to sell independent G-sync and Freesync monitors respectively to increase profit margins and take advantage of the Nvidia/AMD divide.
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G-Sync is so good once you are under Max refresh rate but really sucks that after Monitor refresh Rate it's just V-Sync. Any monitor that is 60Hz and your game does not drop below 60 fps which is very likely will play like a VRR monitor.

Yes? And?

The benefits of variable refresh stop working when you can't vary refresh anymore. Why is this surprising, or even a downside?
post #328 of 708
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Sorry, but FreeSync monitors ain't cheap ... and they aren't $500 either.

FreeSync - BenQ XL2730Z - 2560x1440 resolution - TN panel - 40-144Hz VR range ..... $740.96

G-Sync - Asus ROG Swift - 2560x1440 resolution - TN panel - 30-144Hz VRR range .... $762.99


So basically FreeSync saves you $22. WOW. Massive savings there. rolleyes.gif

And what do you get for that $22 "OMG, nVidia is so damn expensive" price?

Working drivers NOW. Multiple video card support NOW. And best of all, 10Hz VRR on the low end.

Sorry, but the whole "FreeSync will be $200 more expensive" BS has finally been debunked.

You really ought to do more research...

Acer Announces $499 Price Tag For XG270HU FreeSync Monitor
So yes you're right the $200 cheaper BS is debunked, because it'll actually be $250+ cheaper lachen.gif

I will grant that it's not on the market yet, however that BenQ XL2730Z you're quoting is, and it's going for $630 on Newegg. Quoting a higher price on Amazong doesn't make your point valid, especially when the ROG Swift is also going for $780 on Newegg.

Please stop cherry picking data to "prove" your points, seriously.
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I will grant that it's not on the market yet, however that BenQ XL2730Z you're quoting is, and it's going for $630 on Newegg. Quoting a higher price on Amazong doesn't make your point valid, especially when the ROG Swift is also going for $780 on Newegg.

Please stop cherry picking data to "prove" your points, seriously.

I agree with you that FreeSync monitors will sell for quite a bit less than G-sync ones. However, I am sure the prices at this point are market based, not technology based, so a much lower price for FreeSync displays shows an expectation that they have to be cheaper in order to sell rather than them being significantly cheaper to make. None of these displays are priced with razor thin margins, they are priced as high as they can be while still selling.

I am curious, would you actually buy any of the FreeSync displays currently out? With the ghosting issues on these first FreeSync displays (and ULMB on the Swift) an extra $300 for the Swift sounds reasonable. A >60 Hz panel without any overdrive just seems pointless to me.
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Yes? And?

The benefits of variable refresh stop working when you can't vary refresh anymore. Why is this surprising, or even a downside?

Having 2 + latests GPUs i am always above my monitor refresh rate of 60Hz so if i where to replace my monitor with a 60Hz VRR screen i will never see the benefit.
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