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fair enough. hopefully its closer to your perspective than mine so we all win sooner. thumb.gif
If it doesn't happen, it won't be because it's hard, hope you get my drift.
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Meh anytime I see AMD or Nvidia comment on one another I get reminded of this clip from Billy Madison:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXQMoyhPNJA
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If it doesn't happen, it won't be because it's hard, hope you get my drift.
yeah i do.
i don't see nvidia supporting amd's free-sync because in their eyes they would be supporting an inferior product (using nvidia's words not mine). but i believe they would see the potential in supporting a wider VRR market.

lets see if a statement/disclaimer would politically suffice such as:
"a gerforce gpu supports VRR on (this) monitor but for a superior experience . ."
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They didn't design it no, that's the beauty of it, they just have to add support for at the minimal cost of software manhours while keeping their gsync all to themselves

how do we know that?

the beauty of g-sync is the driver only has to deal with one scaler - the g-sync module.
But that's what standards are for. You don't write your driver specifically for every display controller; That would be silly. You write your drivers for the standard protocol of communicating with the monitor, and the display controllers are designed to understand the standard protocol your GPU is speaking.
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Free sync is not free because you still need to buy a special freesync supported monitor. It it worked on any monitor with the only requirement being an AMD GCN GPU then it would be successful. As it stands requiring special hardware is going to be extremely difficult to get people to adopt either G Sync or Freesync.

so much for a firmware update huh? rolleyes.gif

FreeSync is just a play on words, no matter what AMD called it, it was going to be FREE, since ALL AMD is providing is the "FreeSync Drivers" and of course you must buy specific AMD GPU's.

Oh, and there's no additional hardware, once you have the necessary hardware ( compatible scalers ) in each 1.2a compatible monitor. doh.gif
There's more than one definition of "free". There's free as in price, and free as in freedom.
They were obviously referring to the fact that it's not locked to AMD's graphics cards.
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Kinda seems like this is one of those things where you just have to try it for yourself.
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But that's what standards are for. You don't write your driver specifically for every display controller; That would be silly. You write your drivers for the standard protocol of communicating with the monitor, and the display controllers are designed to understand the standard protocol your GPU is speaking.
There's more than one definition of "free". There's free as in price, and free as in freedom.
They were obviously referring to the fact that it's not locked to AMD's graphics cards.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.
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How can one said 'it's not locked to amd's graphics cards' when the technology only available to a few radeon cards ? The 79xx series are locked & left alone tongue.gif
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But that's what standards are for. You don't write your driver specifically for every display controller; That would be silly. You write your drivers for the standard protocol of communicating with the monitor, and the display controllers are designed to understand the standard protocol your GPU is speaking.
There's more than one definition of "free". There's free as in price, and free as in freedom.
They were obviously referring to the fact that it's not locked to AMD's graphics cards.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.
Telling myself what?
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How can one said 'it's not locked to amd's graphics cards'
Because it's not locked to AMD graphics cards.
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when the technology only available to a few radeon cards ? The 79xx series are locked & left alone tongue.gif
You're apparently confusing vendor locks with capability (whether technical or arbitrary).
Intel and Nvidia can adopt it without asking AMD for permission. That's just a fact. Whether they actually will is another matter.

So yes, it's wrong to say it's locked to AMD. It is accurate to say it's currently only available with AMD. Yes, that is an important difference.
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how do we know that?

the beauty of g-sync is the driver only has to deal with one scaler - the g-sync module.
But that's what standards are for. You don't write your driver specifically for every display controller; That would be silly. You write your drivers for the standard protocol of communicating with the monitor, and the display controllers are designed to understand the standard protocol your GPU is speaking.

methinks you need to review the review and testing PCper did. it is clearly stated that AMD needs to "certify" the scaler used to see if they are able to modify their driver to work with it.

so yes they are writing their drivers based on the scaler that is used.
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Guess I have to repeat what I already said. The tearing is not visible to the human eye on a properly configured PC. You can get unlucky and have a badly made BIOS, drivers, or other hardware components and be stuck with it though. For instance, I have a lot of PC hardware sitting around and was running Crysis 2 once and had some chop in that game while panning. I unplugged the G400 mouse and plugged in a G9x laser (yes the G9x is technically worse for accuracy) and the tearing while panning went away to the point where it looks like vsync is turned on but it's off.

Both mice were set to 800 DPI 1000hz, yet the G400 caused tearing while panning while the G9x didn't. Game engines are strange like that.

You should start a thread on this so the real experts can eviscerate your ridiculous claims.

Screen tear is a function of frame rate and refresh rate ONLY. If you make the same mouse movement with the same frametime graph at the same refresh rate, your screen will tear in the exact the exact same way 100% of the time. If you dispute that then your opinions aren't worth the keystrokes you make to express them.
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