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post #131 of 633
Has anyone seen a 790i FTW Digital PWM board that works for sale? I've been trying to find one for a few months, but the only one I've seen is a non working one on fleebay...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188031
http://www.evga.com/articles/00431/
post #132 of 633
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Originally Posted by whitrzac View Post

Has anyone seen a 790i FTW Digital PWM board that works for sale? I've been trying to find one for a few months, but the only one I've seen is a non working one on fleebay...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188031
http://www.evga.com/articles/00431/

They are pretty much non-existent. I had been watching for one for years never mind months... not one ever showed up...

I had the ASUS Striker II Extreme and it was the best overclocking board I had ever had.. I cannot compare it to the FTW Digial PWM though I suspect they are both very very good. You may be able to find one of these board more easily..

Just stay away from the water block if you have a loop... better to leave the fusion block air cooled as it quickly corrodes your loop (aluminum with a copper plating of some sort that comes off). I learned the hard way.
post #133 of 633
I realized recently that the EVGA 790i board I got off ebay was an FTW version. I've been running the non-FTW bios on it for a while with my x5470. I haven't been able to get it stable beyond 4.42ghz even with the X5470 under a closed-loop water cooler with a 240mm radiator.

When I installed the FTW bios yesterday, I got a few more overclocking options. I copied Laithan's settings from his Asus motherboard with the exception of the GTLVREF settings. Still no luck. It's interesting that the x5470 seems to boot up at 4.55ghz with ease but 1-2 cores fail prime95 within minutes. I've even tried to up the vcore but had the same issue.

It's either that I did not win the silicon lottery on the x5470 or the EVGA FTW board isn't as good as an overclocker as the Asus board. I do have another x5470 in my transcoding PC but I don't think it's worth the effort to swap the processors
post #134 of 633
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Originally Posted by LightC View Post

I realized recently that the EVGA 790i board I got off ebay was an FTW version. I've been running the non-FTW bios on it for a while with my x5470. I haven't been able to get it stable beyond 4.42ghz even with the X5470 under a closed-loop water cooler with a 240mm radiator.

When I installed the FTW bios yesterday, I got a few more overclocking options. I copied Laithan's settings from his Asus motherboard with the exception of the GTLVREF settings. Still no luck. It's interesting that the x5470 seems to boot up at 4.55ghz with ease but 1-2 cores fail prime95 within minutes. I've even tried to up the vcore but had the same issue.

It's either that I did not win the silicon lottery on the x5470 or the EVGA FTW board isn't as good as an overclocker as the Asus board. I do have another x5470 in my transcoding PC but I don't think it's worth the effort to swap the processors

Sounds more like a ram instability issue, make sure your memory is supported
post #135 of 633
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Sounds more like a ram instability issue, make sure your memory is supported

This was from the small fft test in prime95 which should mainly test the cpu. Could the memory still be causing the rounding to 0.5 detected error?
post #136 of 633
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Originally Posted by LightC View Post

I realized recently that the EVGA 790i board I got off ebay was an FTW version. I've been running the non-FTW bios on it for a while with my x5470. I haven't been able to get it stable beyond 4.42ghz even with the X5470 under a closed-loop water cooler with a 240mm radiator.

When I installed the FTW bios yesterday, I got a few more overclocking options. I copied Laithan's settings from his Asus motherboard with the exception of the GTLVREF settings. Still no luck. It's interesting that the x5470 seems to boot up at 4.55ghz with ease but 1-2 cores fail prime95 within minutes. I've even tried to up the vcore but had the same issue.

It's either that I did not win the silicon lottery on the x5470 or the EVGA FTW board isn't as good as an overclocker as the Asus board. I do have another x5470 in my transcoding PC but I don't think it's worth the effort to swap the processors


IMO Prime is a very harsh test that doesn't represent real world CPU workload.. Although I don't disagree that it can prove stability, I have had overclocks that passed every test you could think of EXCEPT Prime95.. so if everything else worked fine, IDC wink.gif

I like Aida64 system stability test and believe it or not, Cinebench R15 CPU test is a decent stability test too.
post #137 of 633
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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

IMO Prime is a very harsh test that doesn't represent real world CPU workload.. Although I don't disagree that it can prove stability, I have had overclocks that passed every test you could think of EXCEPT Prime95.. so if everything else worked fine, IDC wink.gif

I like Aida64 system stability test and believe it or not, Cinebench R15 CPU test is a decent stability test too.

If it's not prime95 stable, it's not stable. thumb.gif
post #138 of 633
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I thought I'd at least get one troll reply headscratch.gif
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I'd post about DX12 but I'd be accused of talking to myself and they might come take me away drunken.gif

TROLL MODE ENGAGED

Who wants to buy a board built by nvidia let me tell you now nvidia do not make boards or chip-sets they make graphics cards don't they ??
a board that is what over 8 years old a chip set so called built by nvidia and have to place 1.5 volts into it... which is a pathetic core 2 duo @ 4.2 Ghz what is a core 2 duo never heard of it sounds utter rubbish

i will stick with my

Intel Xeon E7-8860 v3 that yes i can only get 2.8ghz OC at a push out of it ...but i have 16 cores 32 threads so more than makes up for that 4.2 Ghz core duo thing you have
got 128gb ram and a gtx 1080 over-clocked at 2500 on the gpu and 200000 on the memory let me tell you this thing flies to the moon and back

I am more than happy as i get a solid 60 fps with vsync in minesweeper love it so much

so stick your 4.2ghz core 2 duo or what ever it is where he sun don't shine

TROLL MODE DISENGAGED

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What a great thread Laithan
who would have thought an nvidia chip set flexing its mussels like this....just go's to show how these tech companies to date are just herding us in with there drip feeding techniques....
Edited by harney - 7/14/16 at 6:27am
post #139 of 633
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Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

In the mean time.. Intel is up to the same stuff YET AGAIN...

I'm ranting because anyone reading this thread knows I'm itching for an upgrade (lol).. I was HOPEFUL that Skylake would be something to consider but not gonna happen..

SKYLAKE



Well that's a HUGE disappointment....

Ok, Intel congrats for finally getting the base clock speed a bit higher.. this indicates overclocking to ~5+ Ghz may be somewhat easily obtainable..

I think the limitation of 4 REAL cores (regardless of which model you choose) is also not that out of the ordinary as this CPU is targeted for "Gamers".. Gamers only need a quad core ATM (with a high clock speed) and who cares about hyper-threading....

But here we are again, repeating the SAME RITUAL Intel has been repeating for the last 8 years!

"Thanks for being loyal customers everyone.. Time for a NEW SOCKET, NEW CHIPSET, NEW MEMORY and most likely a NEW COOLER too.. "

You can plan to have to re-install your O/S (I would) so this is a MAJOR "UPGRADE", or I should say a MAJOR PIA EXPENSIVE WASTE OF TIME!

Who the heck wants DDR4? NOBODY.. Nobody needs it for gaming.

Ok maybe I am wrong, let's review the facts.. Intel is offering us... umm.. well let's see there's PCI-e 3.0.. oh we already had that long ago (we still don't really even exceed PCI-e 2.0).. Umm let's see, ummm... errrr... uhhhh.. smart cache? How about SMART CONSUMERS! rolleyes.gif

OK STOP.. Intel -please STOP treating the consumer like an IDIOT...

I am blown away at how Intel re-sells us the SAME TECH OVER AND OVER again..

There's NOTHING NEW HERE..

An entirely new platform just to have exactly WHAT MOST OF US ALREADY HAD...Then on top of it all, they limit PCI-e lanes to 16.

16...
Yes..
16 stinkin lanes..

So thanks Intel for boosting the clock speeds for gaming and then shafting us immediately after.
NO, there is NO 16x16 SLI..
So my PCI-e RAID card and SLI GPU's won't be compatible with this platform.. not enough bandwidth to go around.

We just went through a round of the PCI-e lane limitation game with consumers and last gen CPUs.. we need to be have a voice to say we aren't stupid!

It is clear Intel is milking us all yet again..

There is evidence of intentionally limiting the processor and/or chipset for the sake of limiting the product life span. These intentional limitations (they are CERTAINLY NOT TECHNOLOGICAL limitations, we can and already HAVE produced CPUs with many more lanes, etc). I also see this as a backward promotion for x99. Get us "coming or going".

I hope sales reflect the public's lack of enthusiasm and I hope that people see through all the marketing and hype..


Look at NVIDIA and AMD.. In the same 8 years they have demonstrated that they can double performance every year basically (I don't know exact stats). They are coming up with NEW ARCHITECTURES that DRASTICALLY improve performance. They are still using 28nm and yet we have amazing GPUs using Maxwell architecture (for example the Titan X and 980Ti).

When will we get CPUs that DRASTICALLY improve performance again like we did back in the day?


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post #140 of 633
I still have this board & fairly new to overclocking.
My cpu is a q6600 & is on its last legs starting to over heat even with a new CM Hyper D92 cooler.
I'm looking for a "new" modded X5470 to put in it or the fastest CPU I can get
I've got 16gb of GSKILL ddr3-1333 cl9-9-9-24 ram
Could anyone please tell me which CPU to get for max performance.
My GPU is a Nvidea 280gtx (which also needs upgrading lol)
Thank You !
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