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Just wanted to say thanks again. Was stable with that RAM (Prime 95 and a dozen or so hours of gaming). However, I found that 4GB of RAM did not cut it on Win10. You really need 8 GB to do anything (including running Office programs, Quicken, or even multiple browser tabs in Chrome - not just gaming).

So I've been running 8GB of the new RAM I linked before, and so far it is working and stable (Prime + gaming).

Thanks again for a finally stable 790i board heading into 2016!

Awesome, thanks for the feedback! thumb.gif
post #72 of 524
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Something to chew on as I got lost in youtube again smile.gif

Just saying rolleyes.gif

This video will point out that
(1) PCI-e 3.0 8x is sufficient. This supports PCI-e 3.0 not being needed. PCI-e 3.0 8x = PCI-e 2.0 16x.

(2) Although it may seem to be showing that PCI-e lane limitations are not as important, they still are when CPUs are limiting you to only 16 of them.
 
 Marketing, not technological progression.

Did we need DDR4?
Edited by Laithan - 1/2/16 at 11:33am
post #73 of 524
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So intel, you're saying that nobody bothered to run Prime95 during development/testing?

Seriously?!?! It's probably one of, if not THE most popular stress tests... ouch

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In case anyone else tries to run SLI on Win10 with this board,I couldn't enable SLI in the nvidia control panel at first. Google led me to try disabling Windows driver installation, then removing all nvidia drivers, then deleting everything under Nvidia corporation in both program files directories (removing drivers alone did not work) then reinstalling the nvidia drivers.

Apparently no SLI is a known issue with Windows 10 and nvidia SLI, especially older hardware. After I followed steps above, I could use the nvidia control panel to enable SLI. If you can't run the nvidia control panel at all in Windows 10, following the above steps is also supposed to bring it back.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 EVGA 132-CK-NF79-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i ... NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung SSD 850 EVO  ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2, CPU Cooler Scythe DFS123812-3000 "ULTRA KAZE" 120 x 38 mm ... Win10 
PowerCaseAudio
PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS750QBL 750W ATX...  Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black ... Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 EVGA 132-CK-NF79-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i ... NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung SSD 850 EVO  ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2, CPU Cooler Scythe DFS123812-3000 "ULTRA KAZE" 120 x 38 mm ... Win10 
PowerCaseAudio
PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS750QBL 750W ATX...  Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black ... Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 
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post #75 of 524
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In case anyone else tries to run SLI on Win10 with this board,I couldn't enable SLI in the nvidia control panel at first. Google led me to try disabling Windows driver installation, then removing all nvidia drivers, then deleting everything under Nvidia corporation in both program files directories (removing drivers alone did not work) then reinstalling the nvidia drivers.

Apparently no SLI is a known issue with Windows 10 and nvidia SLI, especially older hardware. After I followed steps above, I could use the nvidia control panel to enable SLI. If you can't run the nvidia control panel at all in Windows 10, following the above steps is also supposed to bring it back.

Awesome, thanks for sharing! If M$ has its way and keeps literally pushing it out to everyone's PC whether they asked for it or not, this tip could come in handy.
post #76 of 524
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I guess I needed to update the title because my system didn't die yet. tongue.gif
It is now 2016 and it is looking like another year might even be possible! lol

Take a look at Vulcan's progress.. exciting stuff!
https://www.khronos.org/vulkan/
http://wccftech.com/khronos-group-vulkan-api-release-imminent/

I think it is clear that those with more than 4 cores are going to have an advantage with these new APIs (DX12 included) as both technologies will be able to utilize more cores but my question is whether or not breaking the dependency on CPU draw calls is actually going to improve performance for older systems.

IE: Breath even more life and extend longevity to CPUs like mine that are draw call limited in 1080p perhaps?

It will be interesting to see what happens before I finally upgrade to my new CPU smile.gif


Just FYI, I'm still upgrading other components smile.gif I've got (2) 980Ti's under EK full cover blocks now


Leak testing
Installing my EKWB (Click to show)

Last moments of being an AIR cooled GPU


Goodbye windforce


You're too darn loud anyway


Remove ALL screws accessible from the backplate of the GPU


Pull the cooler off the PCB gently. Don't pull too much, there's 3 plugs to disconnect. Bottom right corner of this pic is the one you remove first. It is hard to see.


Disconnecting the single plug allows you to flip the cooler over while the other 2 wires are still connected


The plug on the right comes out easily. The one on the left has a death grip (locking plug) but if you gently pull up you can easily pull the plug right off. Yes it can be re-installed and it will work just fine. wink.gif


This is the only way I could remove this plug. But you can see it will easily slide right back on if ever needed later.


Now time to remove the backplate. Looking now at the top of the GPU, remove all 4 remaining screws that are now accessible after removing the cooler


I have to say, this backplate feels thinner than the 980.. It feels light and flimsy..


Time to clean up. No shortcuts here. It is a pain in the butt however you need things nice and clean biggrin.gif


EK Gives you some paste and I guess it is supposedly pretty good but I use TX4


Time to install the heat transfer pads for the VRMs, memory modules and mosfets


All prepped, making sure ALL edges of everything was completely covered with the transfer pad


And ready to install the block


I now take the block and slightly "season" it with TX4 so that it will make a better bond with the GPU since there are grooves in the block.


Here it is, all done!


Now to install the back plate


More heat transfer pads are needed because the backplate is actually a passive cooler and not thin and flimsy like the stock backplate.


In back of the GPU as well to pull heat away


Installed! By the way, I should have read the instructions for the backplate FIRST because I ended up having to take out some of the screws I had just put in for the backplate to install but it was no big deal. Just wanted to point this out for others to read both instructions at the same time and you'll see what I mean wink.gif


Looking hot!


That's one fine slim body right there wink.gif


How she'll look installed in the case (the same orientation)


post #77 of 524
I have two LGA 775 motherboards running x5470s. I just bought an EVGA FTW 790i motherboard based upon this thread for $90 on ebay. I plan to move one of the x5470s to this board.

The EVGA motherboard interestingly comes with 2x4GB 1866 DDR3 ram (and a Q9550 cpu I plan to sell). I did some digging and it looks like these boards can run 16GB of RAM with the right bios. Found a thread about it here from a few years ago: http://forums.evga.com/Using-4GB-RAM-modules-on-a-790i-series-board-m837038-p4.aspx

If I buy this RAM, will it work with the 2x4GB modules that are coming with the 790i board I ordered? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=8470145&SID=636fdc2ac60511e5a59bce119641e88b0INT&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16820231428&cm_sp=
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I have two LGA 775 motherboards running x5470s. I just bought an EVGA FTW 790i motherboard based upon this thread for $90 on ebay. I plan to move one of the x5470s to this board.

The EVGA motherboard interestingly comes with 2x4GB 1866 DDR3 ram (and a Q9550 cpu I plan to sell). I did some digging and it looks like these boards can run 16GB of RAM with the right bios. Found a thread about it here from a few years ago: http://forums.evga.com/Using-4GB-RAM-modules-on-a-790i-series-board-m837038-p4.aspx

If I buy this RAM, will it work with the 2x4GB modules that are coming with the 790i board I ordered? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=8470145&SID=636fdc2ac60511e5a59bce119641e88b0INT&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16820231428&cm_sp=


Nice! The FTW boards are good boards.

8GB is really your safe max I think (and that limitation will kill this platform however SO FAR I haven't run into any game that needed more). From from I understand (I haven't tested it) if you use 16GB you will have issues with one of the PCI-e slots or maybe more than one... I don't know exactly maybe it is a northbridge issue but I think 16GB may work with a single GPU only and not if you had other PCI-e devices like SLI, RAID, NIC etc. I can't verify it just remember being told from someone who was trying it.

Memory that is compatible with the 790i is very hard to find unfortunately especially 2 matchingi pairs that you would need for 8GB. The "SLI" ram is ideal just hard to find I just found one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Patriot-PVS34G2000LLKN-4GB-DDR3-SLI-Ready-/222007176165?hash=item33b0a8abe5:g:tvUAAOSw--1Wp~xk it is rare to see them listed. I found this one but finding (2) identical set of ram is so hard but I was able to set up a search and I found 4 pairs it just took some time smile.gif.

The RAM you linked seems to have the same JEDEC spec as far as the voltage and timing (same as memory I found on ebay) but 4GB chips instead of 2GB. They also say XMP in the compatibility specs (not always 100% accurate). At least if you look back at memory that was current when these boards came out the XMP ram was often mistaken for being compatible with this chipset and it wasn't fully... these new ones, I don't know but that link was interesting it sounds like others were getting it to work and didn't mention this issue.

What I do know is that getting the memory right for this chipset is important.


Perhaps someone else has experience running 16GB and/or had success buying modern memory and getting it to work in these boards and can share?

Good luck!
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Edited by Laithan - 1/28/16 at 2:55pm
post #79 of 524
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Nice! The FTW boards are good boards.

8GB is really your safe max I think (and that limitation will kill this platform however SO FAR I haven't run into any game that needed more). From from I understand (I haven't tested it) if you use 16GB you will have issues with one of the PCI-e slots or maybe more than one... I don't know exactly maybe it is a northbridge issue but I think 16GB may work with a single GPU only and not if you had other PCI-e devices like SLI, RAID, NIC etc. I can't verify it just remember being told from someone who was trying it.

Memory that is compatible with the 790i is very hard to find unfortunately especially 2 matchingi pairs that you would need for 8GB. The "SLI" ram is ideal just hard to find I just found one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Patriot-PVS34G2000LLKN-4GB-DDR3-SLI-Ready-/222007176165?hash=item33b0a8abe5:g:tvUAAOSw--1Wp~xk it is rare to see them listed. I found this one but finding (2) identical set of ram is so hard but I was able to set up a search and I found 4 pairs it just took some time smile.gif.

The RAM you linked seems to have the same JEDEC spec as far as the voltage and timing (same as memory I found on ebay) but 4GB chips instead of 2GB. They also say XMP in the compatibility specs (not always 100% accurate). At least if you look back at memory that was current when these boards came out the XMP ram was often mistaken for being compatible with this chipset and it wasn't fully... these new ones, I don't know but that link was interesting it sounds like others were getting it to work and didn't mention this issue.

What I do know is that getting the memory right for this chipset is important.


Perhaps someone else has experience running 16GB and/or had success buying modern memory and getting it to work in these boards and can share?

Good luck!
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I did it earlier on my EVGA 790i FTW, I flashed it to the XFX 790i bios thingy and it worked but the ram that I bought for it died really quickly...

I was having numerous issues with the board though, and many times it wouldn't boot for some strange reason.
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The guy in the last post here states he got 16GB of RAM working with three video cards so perhaps some users have faulty boards or the wrong bios version installed?
http://forums.evga.com/790i-Ultra-SLI-4x4GB-with-modern-cheap-RAM-that-does-pass-Memtest-m1743830.aspx
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