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Summary: WiFi signal strength good, poor speeds/bandwidth when any distance away from router. Highly Congested 2.4Ghz band, issue persists on 5Ghz band. No issues w/ wired communications. On latest firmware. Everything is wired with Cat7 or Cat6 cables, and all Coax jacks in the residence have been terminated with 75ohm terminators.

Normally I'm pretty good about channel hunting and optimizing home wifi networks for best signal strength and coverage. However, I've run into a somewhat unique issue, or at least unique in regards to my difficulty in remedying it.

I recently moved into an apt w/ my best friend, and we elected to drop the mediocre Xfinity 802.11g 10/100 router when we got 105mbps service. While I had budgeted out money for network infrastructure, it was a tight budget.

Purchased a
ZyXEL BRG35503 DOCSIS 3.0 Residential Cable Modem
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and a

Netis Wireless AC1200 router(Model: WF2780)



edit: BTW, I have a sneaky suspicion this is the same router as the one Monoprice brands as it's own and sells.
Monoprice AC1200 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router, Product # 11538



Herein lies the issue. There are somewhere around 3 dozen 2.4Ghz 802.11b/g/n networks around me, and every channel is highly saturated. I played and played around with channels and channel width, and 2.4Ghz wifi more than physically next to the router TANKS. Wired, I regualarly get 108-125Mbps down; over 2.4ghz, 8mbps is about max outside the room w/ the router.

I figured 5Ghz band would be better. While there are only a handful of other 5ghz band networks and I'm able to easily choose a non-overlapping channel, the speed story is similar here. The drop isn't as severe, but outside the room I'm lucky to get 25mbps on 802.11n/ac 5ghz. I've also tried several different combinations of channel and channel width. Even w/ good signal strength, and a 5ghz intel wifi adapter w/ a high gain antenna, I wasn't able to get over 10mbps on my HTPC about 30ft away(admittedly thru a small bedroom and a kitchen). On 2.4Ghz, it was getting 8 or less Mbps. Both have dropout issues w/ high-bandwidth content like netflix.

I even turned the broadcast power to the 2.4ghz network down 50% and left the 5ghz @ 100%. I also invested in shielded cables and coax terminators to further minimize interference from local sources. The strangest part is I get decent to great signal strength thoughout the apt, but speeds drop very sharply as I leave mere inches from the router.

I have 3 Networks set up.
A primary 2.4Ghz w/ WPA2-PSK AES encryption w/ a 16-character pw, hidden SSID 802.11n only, channel 11, 20mhz channel width.

A guest 2.4Ghz w/ WPA2-PSK AES encryption w/ a 10-character pw, broadcast SSID, and it's isolated from my LAN

A primary 5ghz w/ WPA2-PSK AES encryption w/ a 16-character pw, hidden SSID, 802.11n/ac only, channel 44, 20mhz channel width.

WPS is disabled across the board.
2.4Ghz broadcast power is @ 50%(no descernable difference @ 100% power)
5ghz broadcast power is @ 100%

Router is running what should be the latest firmware v1.2.30879,2014.11.11 13:11

If it is the router that's at fault, I cannot afford something like a nice Asus or Netgear nighthawk, but especially w/ the 2.4Ghz congestion, need 5ghz capability, and wanted AC as well.

I'll post screenshots of the configuration menus shortly, and I'll run a site survey so you can see just how congested it is.
Edited by DesertRat - 3/25/15 at 7:37pm
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So, here is the layout of my router's interface. This took awhile to screen shot everything, and then just as long to spoiler tag everything correctly so you effectively see the interface as it's laid out.

This is what the management interface on the Netis WF2780, using Firmware V1.2.30879. This is as how I have it currently configured.


Network (Click to show) Wireless 2.4G (Click to show) Wireless 5G (Click to show) Bandwidth Control (Click to show)
Forwarding (Click to show) Access Control (Click to show) Dynamic DNS (Click to show)
Advanced (Click to show) System Tools (Click to show)
Edited by DesertRat - 3/25/15 at 7:25pm
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Thanks for the variety and depth of info. I will look at this. Seems an interesting enough challenge. wink.gif
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Here is what my 802.11 neighborhood looks like, it's a nightmare.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by coachmark2 View Post


Yup... That was about my reaction when I loaded up the site survey tool on my smartphone too.

I'd totally accept that getting any semblance of speed out of the 2.4ghz band being a lost cause, but even just 5-10ft away w/ clear line of sight I get poor speeds on the 5ghz band too.
Edited by DesertRat - 3/25/15 at 9:02pm
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In Wireless advanced, try disabling WMM, Short Guard interval, and protection.

Also, try channel 157 instead of 44.
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post #9 of 18
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Sadly, no improvement. I'm starting to wonder if there's a ton of interference, and it's just not putting out enough wattage to override it. IDK.

Was looking to see if it had DD-WRT, OpenWRT, or Tomato support. DD-WRT support is 99% no due to using a realtek chipset, supposedly. While OpenWRT does support some realtek chipsets, a router listed as similar to my Netis in OpenWRT's wiki was stated as not yet supported. Haven't looked at Tomato as of writing this TBH.
Edited by DesertRat - 3/28/15 at 11:46pm
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update: The download speed is the only speed being crippled. Upload speeds are almost the same as wired on 802.11n 2.4Ghz on auto channel.
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