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if it comes with a fire extinguisher i'll buy it.

asrock and small form factor amd boards is a bad mix.
Except that statement is a useless, unfairly generalizing stereotype with no evidence to back it up.
post #32 of 72
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Except that statement is a useless, unfairly generalizing stereotype with no evidence to back it up.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1337304/asrock-fm2a75m-itx-motherboard-fire
http://www.overclock.net/t/1301979/trinity-apu-amd-socket-fm2-motherboard-discussion-gallery/230

yep. nothing to back it up.
 
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Looks like someone has an inventory full of 970 chipsets.

I mean, c'mon, am3+ is getting really old now.
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post #34 of 72
LMAO! Thought someone had Necrobumped! Don't see the point of this at all. Maybe for people who's MoBo's blow up and they want to stay AMD (AM3+). Other than that ?????

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I've never used FM2 so I've never seen that issue, but WOW, that is pretty depressing. However, you can't just generalize an entire manufacturer's product lineup based on one branch of the system. I hope they would have fixed that issue by now, seeing as this board has been designed recently and is using a different socket.
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This board is right on time.

Can't wait to ditch my i5 for some mItx octo core.
 
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post #37 of 72
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I've never used FM2 so I've never seen that issue, but WOW, that is pretty depressing. However, you can't just generalize an entire manufacturer's product lineup based on one branch of the system. I hope they would have fixed that issue by now, seeing as this board has been designed recently and is using a different socket.

The problem with that model was it was designed for FM1. They took the exact same board and just updated the chipset and socket and released it for FM2. The vrm's couldn't handled the beefed up graphics in Trinity and they would overheat and burn up. ASRock didn't build any protection into the board.

I have 3 A75M-ITX FM1's and none of them have any issues with vrm heat on llano. It's only a 3+1 setup supporting a max of 95watts, this was bound to happen with a A10-5800k. Still terrible engineering or cost cutting on ASRock but that is the only board I have seen with that issue.

Still, I'm hesitant to buy anymore ASRock's. While mine didn't burn up, they do have this weird mouse stutter issue on all 3 of them.
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post #38 of 72
I think with the sudden popularity in DX12 this revitalizes the life of AM3+. Technically of all processors just as old. Old tech isn't really old until something supersedes it. AM3 because of lacking NB and SB on chip can take more features with revisions like USB 3.1.
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I've never used FM2 so I've never seen that issue, but WOW, that is pretty depressing. However, you can't just generalize an entire manufacturer's product lineup based on one branch of the system. I hope they would have fixed that issue by now, seeing as this board has been designed recently and is using a different socket.

ASROCK boards on AM3/AM3+ haven't been great either. but you're right, I only heard about the burst into flames issue on FM2, and their FM2+ mitx board (they quickly came out with a FM2+ board as an "apology" of sorts for that flame starting fm2 board, and to everyone's surprise that one started on fire for a few people too; which i think sorta made Asrock a bad word for small form factor APU builds)

Asrock's main problem on the AMD platform is their VRM quality isn't good, and they like to use the doublers to "fake" extra vrms. That type of thing works just fine on lower voltage chips like intels, but it doesn't work well on fx8 cores. Throw in the typically poor pcb quality and you run into some serious heat issues on a platform that already has heat issues inherent in the design.
 
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post #40 of 72
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ASROCK boards on AM3/AM3+ haven't been great either. but you're right, I only heard about the burst into flames issue on FM2, and their FM2+ mitx board (they quickly came out with a FM2+ board as an "apology" of sorts for that flame starting fm2 board, and to everyone's surprise that one started on fire for a few people too; which i think sorta made Asrock a bad word for small form factor APU builds)

Asrock's main problem on the AMD platform is their VRM quality isn't good, and they like to use the doublers to "fake" extra vrms. That type of thing works just fine on lower voltage chips like intels, but it doesn't work well on fx8 cores. Throw in the typically poor pcb quality and you run into some serious heat issues on a platform that already has heat issues inherent in the design.
That's a pretty good summary of the problem. I don't overclock, so I have no need to worry about VRM quality, but your point makes a lot of sense.
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