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You also have to keep in mind we're talking about a monstrous 601mm^2 die, the largest that nVidia has ever designed.

I think what happens next with GM200 will depend heavily upon how the 390X performs, and how it's priced.
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Well, that is easy to tell from history; we had the best prices when AMD brought competition.

nVidia is very keen on keeping the performance crown though - remember GTX480 - so it'll be interesting to see what will come out if AMD launches a card that's faster than the Titan X.
post #173 of 255
If Nvidia would be selling cut down (imperfect) gm200 chips, why would they wait until summer or wait until AMD makes its move? Isn't selling them as early as possible would let them rake more money in than selling it later when competition had already laid out their best card on the table? I'm pretty sure 390x would at least perform at the same level with titan x and nvidia won't sit idle watching AMD take the crown.
post #174 of 255
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If Nvidia would be selling cut down (imperfect) gm200 chips, why would they wait until summer or wait until AMD makes its move? Isn't selling them as early as possible would let them rake more money in than selling it later when competition had already laid out their best card on the table? I'm pretty sure 390x would at least perform at the same level with titan x and nvidia won't sit idle watching AMD take the crown.

This is not official, and a good rumor for nVidia since it can push some people towards buying a Titan. Better margins on that thing.

Also, seeing what specs AMD's flagship will have allows them to make the necessary fine-tuning.
post #175 of 255
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This is not official, and a good rumor for nVidia since it can push some people towards buying a Titan. Better margins on that thing.

Also, seeing what specs AMD's flagship will have allows them to make the necessary fine-tuning.

yeah, agreed. And it'll be interesting to see nvidia-intel partnership (http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2015/03/25/nvidia-may-use-intel-to-make-some-chips-says-rbc/?mod=yahoobarrons&ru=yahoo)
post #176 of 255
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Bingo, this is what I've been saying, that there's just no way nVidia would sit on a pile of imperfect GM200 chips and not do anything with them. Does not make any business sense whatsoever.

Why do you assume that just because Nvidia releases a fully enabled GM200 chip for the 980Ti, that they have to throw away imperfect chips? Can they not also release lower cost versions like a 970Ti etc? I think the point of the "not releasing another high end card until Pascal" quote simply means there won't be a card released faster than Titan X/980Ti until Pascal, not that there won't be any other high end cards released before them (just slower than the TItan X)...
post #177 of 255
lol what? I think you read my post wrong, by "not do anything with them" I meant exactly what you're saying, that nVidia will convert the parts with some defects into cut down versions, instead of letting them go to waste.

As for the "not releasing another high end card until Pascal" part, I guess we'll just have to disagree on what it means exactly lol. But if the VC is trying to say what you're saying, then they really ought to reword that sentence (or translation) to remove the ambiguity.
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I hope they do it. That way all them people swearing how a 980ti is simply not will eat some heaping crow wand stop acting as if they work at nv or something devil.gif
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Well, that is easy to tell from history; we had the best prices when AMD brought competition.

nVidia is very keen on keeping the performance crown though - remember GTX480 - so it'll be interesting to see what will come out if AMD launches a card that's faster than the Titan X.

If the rumours are true, 390X will blow Titan out of the water which will help them to gain massive marketshare.

That will stop nvidia from overpricing their flagships.
 
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If the rumours are true, 390X will blow Titan out of the water which will help them to gain massive marketshare.

That will stop nvidia from overpricing their flagships.

If the rumors are true, the 390x edges the Titan X the same way the 780 Ti did to the 290x at release.

And 390x/Titan X etc have virtually no impact on market share at all.
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