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Nope, don't care if I have to type the command line in japanese

Sure you do. All the complaining about how you have to get it done suddenly it doesn't matter.

Strike one.
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as long as it can outperform Windows, but it can't.

Sure it can. Valve got it to do so easily during development (check the Left 4 Dead blog). Not mention that is one of the draws in using Linux is how you can get it to perform much faster than Windows, especially on older hardware.

Strike two.
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If you look up the history of X window, it's something like 20 years old. Then Wayland is like...7 years old and doesn't even work yet.

This doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things or this thread.

And yet even with cruft as old as you are you can still make it faster than Windows.

Swing and a miss. Sure three.
post #32 of 52
Windows is still using code from XP. Does that mean that it has to updated? Pretty sure that code doesn't have a use-by date...

EDIT; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpoIAH9OJ4U
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The age has nothing to do with how good something is, xorg gets updates constantly, it was just born a long time ago and the newer things are trying to do stuff more securely and efficiently. It will take a while for something to replace xorg because of the amount of packages that rely on it.

A lot of work goes into these things I think a lot of end users don't realise / appreciate much
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Hey everyone, I get it now!
The only way for r0ach to have had such a horrible experience is by using virtualbox or something. Of course, it makes sense for somebody that lazy to not even bother with partitions, for somebody that obviously biased to not want to part with their precious microshaft winblows.
Or maybe we just have a troll who's never actually used Linux...
Yeah, that's more likely, a fresh install of Debian is a LOT more responsive than my gaming tweaked W8.

Not even close to true. Even if you load no desktop environment and just have a grey screen it's still a stretch.
post #36 of 52
I agree that it is a bit of work to get your video drivers and mouse setup in linux and even after things still aren't close to feeling as stable or consistent as windows. I know linux isn't windows but things like how the mouse feels in an environment should feel similar especially with accel turned off. Every DE feels different and its really only feasible to play in a WM. Yes, I've set the hertz, tried all of the different ways to remove accel, set nvidia to use 144hz, etc. A good example is CSGO where the mouse sensitivity is double that of windows and even if you cut your sensitivity in half it still feels too fast or has accel.


https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive/issues/162
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive/issues/232
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Counter-Strike-Global-Offensive/issues/20
post #37 of 52
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Not even close to true. Even if you load no desktop environment and just have a grey screen it's still a stretch.

You may just have hardware that acts funky with the generic drivers, but that doesn't mean that everyone blindly buys crappy hardware.

Consider this, I tend to do things very rapidly when I'm at my computer, because I'm used to a stripped down Gentoo install. When I boot into W8 to play some games, I have issues with the tiny delays before stuff happens, such as when I go to open the start menu. I slam the mouse into the bottom left corner, and immediately click. Nothing. Doesn't even register the click in the hot corner. This is just one example of the many little stutters I find with Windows, that aren't present in either of my Linux installs.
I never have mouse issues, and you'll find that most people using *nix have no mouse issues either.

Lets take it one step further, my Raspberry Pi is about as responsive as my windows install. No mouse issues there either.
Your actual PC just got beaten by a $30 piece of plastic and a 700MHz ARM CPU.
rekt
Buy a not broken PC.
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You may just have hardware that acts funky with the generic drivers, but that doesn't mean that everyone blindly buys crappy hardware.

Consider this, I tend to do things very rapidly when I'm at my computer, because I'm used to a stripped down Gentoo install. When I boot into W8 to play some games, I have issues with the tiny delays before stuff happens, such as when I go to open the start menu. I slam the mouse into the bottom left corner, and immediately click. Nothing. Doesn't even register the click in the hot corner. This is just one example of the many little stutters I find with Windows, that aren't present in either of my Linux installs.
I never have mouse issues, and you'll find that most people using *nix have no mouse issues either.

Lets take it one step further, my Raspberry Pi is about as responsive as my windows install. No mouse issues there either.
Your actual PC just got beaten by a $30 piece of plastic and a 700MHz ARM CPU.
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Buy a not broken PC.

My windows 8.1 immediately opens the start menu when i "slam" it in the corner and immediately click.

I advice buying a not broken PC to fix your problem.
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My windows 8.1 immediately opens the start menu when i "slam" it in the corner and immediately click.

I advice buying a not broken PC to fix your problem.

You're not fast enough then biggrin.gif
If I slow down, even a little bit, it works fine, but going at my own pace, things don't always work.
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I like my Windows 8.1 with DWM disabled. I just don't like a lot of other stuff about it... biggrin.gif

A OS tailored specifically for gaming and nothing else should be a thing, there aren't even any real questions about it in my mind.
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