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Considering SSDs should have 20-25% empty space on them, 64GB can get pretty crowded pretty quickly. In the case of my desktop rig, 64GB isn't big enough since I'm taking up 64.9GB on a 128GB SSD. I don't have any games or monster programs on it (although a 24GB hyberfil.sys file doesn't help any).

24GB Pagefile is massive but if you need it so be it...

I said hyberfil.sys file, not page file (I reduced my page file to 800GB since I turned off System Restore in favor of imaging). I have 32GB of RAM, which explains why I have a 24GB hyberfil.sys file. I keep it because my UPS uses Hibernation to safely shut down my computer without losing data if the power should go out.
   
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Considering SSDs should have 20-25% empty space on them, 64GB can get pretty crowded pretty quickly. In the case of my desktop rig, 64GB isn't big enough since I'm taking up 64.9GB on a 128GB SSD. I don't have any games or monster programs on it (although a 24GB hyberfil.sys file doesn't help any).
u could reduce that hyberfil size to 50% of Ram size, that should buy u another 8GB. google up to see how to do it. I do this on all my machine, 75% is too overkill.

Actually, I have exceeded 16GB RAM on occasion so 50% wouldn't cut it. Besides, I have plenty of room so why bother for 8GB I don't need?
   
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How about making drives that don't wear out... solid state, still wears out. How convenient.

Have you seen the SSD Endurance Experiment tests? They wrote over two petabytes to a Samsung 840 Pro before it died. That is a 256 GB drive too, a 512 GB would have nearly double the endurance. The first died at just over 700 TB total writes.

It is very unusual to write more than 700 terabytes, let alone two petabytes, to a drive in the number of years a standard hard drive lasts, this issue is not much of a worry anymore.
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Have you seen the SSD Endurance Experiment tests? They wrote over two petabytes to a Samsung 840 Pro before it died. That is a 256 GB drive too, a 512 GB would have nearly double the endurance. The first died at just over 700 TB total writes.

It is very unusual to write more than 700 terabytes, let alone two petabytes, to a drive in the number of years a standard hard drive lasts, this issue is not much of a worry anymore.
The issue of modern SSDs is fatal controller failures, not the wear out. They just fail without going into read-only mode.
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The issue of modern SSDs is fatal controller failures, not the wear out. They just fail without going into read-only mode.

True, but standard drives have random sudden death failures too. tongue.gif
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Windows still creates a page file even if you delete it (or move it to a hdd)? First ive heard of that.

I move my page file to my HDD and i dont see it move back to my ssd.

You can check this in AIDA. You can also read Sean's guide on SSD's in which he states disabling pagefile and moving it to a mechanical drive really serves no purpose, which is why I've set my PF to 4GB and leave it on the SSD.

Win 7 Optimisation thread.
Win 8 Optmisation thread.

Why you should have the pagefile on the SSD.


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I said hyberfil.sys file, not page file (I reduced my page file to 800GB since I turned off System Restore in favor of imaging). I have 32GB of RAM, which explains why I have a 24GB hyberfil.sys file. I keep it because my UPS uses Hibernation to safely shut down my computer without losing data if the power should go out.

Sorry, I misunderstood. It makes sense why hyberfil is so large.
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Have you seen the SSD Endurance Experiment tests? They wrote over two petabytes to a Samsung 840 Pro before it died. That is a 256 GB drive too, a 512 GB would have nearly double the endurance. The first died at just over 700 TB total writes.

It is very unusual to write more than 700 terabytes, let alone two petabytes, to a drive in the number of years a standard hard drive lasts, this issue is not much of a worry anymore.

Exactly this. Endurance is not a problem with current SSD's. First and second gen SSD's had problems with NAND quality but since Samsung's 840 MLC and TLC and NAND from two years ago this is not a problem at all.
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The issue of modern SSDs is fatal controller failures, not the wear out. They just fail without going into read-only mode.

This is the real problem with SSD's, though they should go into read mode when the NAND fails, not the controller. But instead of the NAND failing catastrophically it seems to be either the controller or a combination of both controller and NAND failing together. Either way it's not a serious worry as long as you don't do full drive level writes on a daily basis. If so you need enterprise or top quality NAND.
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True, but standard drives have random sudden death failures too. tongue.gif

Exactly.
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Bring it on! I have a Gigabyte Brix Pro (I7-4770R) with a single 2.5" sata port... my 240G is already full
 
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Didn't Sandisk show a roadmap saying they would have 16TB drives by 2020? (or there abouts)
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Considering SSDs should have 20-25% empty space on them, 64GB can get pretty crowded pretty quickly. In the case of my desktop rig, 64GB isn't big enough since I'm taking up 64.9GB on a 128GB SSD. I don't have any games or monster programs on it (although a 24GB hyberfil.sys file doesn't help any).

24GB Pagefile is massive but if you need it so be it...

I said hyberfil.sys file, not page file (I reduced my page file to 800GB since I turned off System Restore in favor of imaging). I have 32GB of RAM, which explains why I have a 24GB hyberfil.sys file. I keep it because my UPS uses Hibernation to safely shut down my computer without losing data if the power should go out.

holy crap 0.8TB pagefile! biggrin.gif
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The issue of modern SSDs is fatal controller failures, not the wear out. They just fail without going into read-only mode.

Exactly this. I am completely unconcerned about NAND endurance, but sudden controller death definitely does concern me, and the early SF controllers certainly instilled a lot of fear in me lol
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