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How about making drives that don't wear out... solid state, still wears out. How convenient.
Electrons ripping their layers of material that are a few atoms thick.... yeah, darn that physics.... Why can't they build a leak proof trap that does not cost more than $0.000000000001?

No good engineers who can build trillions of things at the atomic level with an defect rate of 0.0001%.

These people are such jerks who able to manipulate materials so close to the thinnest possible level that these thing break. They only reduce cost and increase density.... who needs that?

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Exactly this. I am completely unconcerned about NAND endurance, but sudden controller death definitely does concern me, and the early SF controllers certainly instilled a lot of fear in me lol
SandForce?

Try Indilinx Barefoot and Intel X25-M.... the first "good" SSD controllers and about every single consumer SSD controller up until around 2013....

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Edited by DuckieHo - 3/28/15 at 11:20pm
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So more storage is nice and all, but what about speed? We're still limited to around 550mb/s on Sata3, and the sustained speeds aren't that great either. I guess the former would be more about the SATA interface, but the latter is all about the drive itself.

Give me a drive that can do sustained 550mb/s read/write that's at least 250gb (or 256) for ~$100; that'll be a great achievement.
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Isn't SATA III ~750MB/s?
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Isn't SATA III ~750MB/s?

Fairly sure 550Mbps is the real-world limit at the least.

 

For speed reasons my next system will be built with a 1TB M.2 NVMe ssd. No faffing about with moving my users folder via junctions, or moving some folders over but keeping appdata and virtualmachines on the ssd... just a boot drive, and archive drives.

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OS can sit on a 64GB SSD while you have pagefiles, games, and media on other HDDs.

But then all of your games and media run at HDD speeds. I don't really care about OS or boot time but stuff that you're actually interacting with - games or anything hammering storage - is actually important.
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OS can sit on a 64GB SSD while you have pagefiles, games, and media on other HDDs.

But then all of your games and media run at HDD speeds. I don't really care about OS or boot time but stuff that you're actually interacting with - games or anything hammering storage - is actually important.
Yea... that's not an area hat I have experience with myself. But the info I have seen on this mixed with my own experiences makes me think buying a 64GB SSD for OS only may be worth it. Load times for me are actually pretty good aside from initial loading times (Minecraft load up with modpacks and missing textures are a different story). However, from what I have seen from others, is that Windows over all seems snappier. Things tend to load up a bit better since the OS is on a SSD while programs that need loading are on a HDD that isn't competing with loading OS info at the same time.

I guess it comes down to the whole 'HDDs suck at random W/R'. Hopefully I can get one of these jobs I've applied to soon so I can start spending money on the rig again. I'll definitely try out the 64GB SSD thing. Depending on price, might make it 120GB/128GB just to have a couple things on it + pagefile.
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OS can sit on a 64GB SSD while you have pagefiles, games, and media on other HDDs.

But then all of your games and media run at HDD speeds. I don't really care about OS or boot time but stuff that you're actually interacting with - games or anything hammering storage - is actually important.
Yea... that's not an area hat I have experience with myself. But the info I have seen on this mixed with my own experiences makes me think buying a 64GB SSD for OS only may be worth it. Load times for me are actually pretty good aside from initial loading times (Minecraft load up with modpacks and missing textures are a different story). However, from what I have seen from others, is that Windows over all seems snappier. Things tend to load up a bit better since the OS is on a SSD while programs that need loading are on a HDD that isn't competing with loading OS info at the same time.

I guess it comes down to the whole 'HDDs suck at random W/R'. Hopefully I can get one of these jobs I've applied to soon so I can start spending money on the rig again. I'll definitely try out the 64GB SSD thing. Depending on price, might make it 120GB/128GB just to have a couple things on it + pagefile.

aim for multiple SSDs for different purpose, SSD still has limitations with simultaneous read+write access, if you spread load amongst multiple SSDs you get proportional increase in responsiveness.

e.g. 128GB for OS (only), 128GB for pagefile+hibernate+cache, 512GB for general purpose apps and games, etc.

you don't really need much more than 64GB for OS alone, but having at least 128GB (and since its rare to find high-performance 64GB now a days) will allow you to install work apps like photoshop in it.
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There is no way an OS can run off a 64GB SSD. After updates and a few necessary programs (Photoshop is already several GB) you are looking at easily filling 64GB's.
How about Win 8.1 Pro with ALL updates and some software on a 20Gb msata SDD? Can provide proof.
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Considering SSDs should have 20-25% empty space on them, 64GB can get pretty crowded pretty quickly. In the case of my desktop rig, 64GB isn't big enough since I'm taking up 64.9GB on a 128GB SSD. I don't have any games or monster programs on it (although a 24GB hyberfil.sys file doesn't help any).

24GB Pagefile is massive but if you need it so be it...

I said hyberfil.sys file, not page file (I reduced my page file to 800GB since I turned off System Restore in favor of imaging). I have 32GB of RAM, which explains why I have a 24GB hyberfil.sys file. I keep it because my UPS uses Hibernation to safely shut down my computer without losing data if the power should go out.

holy crap 0.8TB pagefile! biggrin.gif

Typo. That should be 800MB.
   
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