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i was thinking of buying a 34inc monitor
i have a 1440p ips 60ghz now
but was put off becasue they only support some games id be playing most games with back bars down the side the same of the monitor i have now so not worth it for me
looking for a big 4k monitor hopefully a 40inc IPS will come out
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i was thinking of buying a 34inc monitor
i have a 1440p ips 60ghz now
but was put off becasue they only support some games id be playing most games with back bars down the side the same of the monitor i have now so not worth it for me
looking for a big 4k monitor hopefully a 40inc IPS will come out

Which games are you talking about? Flawless widescreen and widescreen fixer have fixes for many of the games that dont natively support 21:9.
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so you can play all games on these panels??
i was just put off if i cant play all games i have a 27inc ips 1440p now
so if i was going to get black bars down the side would be no point me getting one

would be good for some one who dont game uses it for other stuff
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Check out wsgf.org and see the supported games with these fixes or google flawless widescreen thumb.gif
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so you can play all games on these panels??
i was just put off if i cant play all games i have a 27inc ips 1440p now
so if i was going to get black bars down the side would be no point me getting one

would be good for some one who dont game uses it for other stuff

Most newer titles work fine... the only exception I can think of that doesn't is Evolve... Many older titles support it natively, some need to be fixed by Flawless Widescreen or Widescreen Fixer as noted above... and a few games just won't work well at all.

I posted this in another thread, this might be of some use to you:
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Originally Posted by DNMock View Post

On a monitor like this, if the game doesn't support the 21:9 aspect ratio, wouldn't you just get the old "widescreen" effect, only instead of black bars on the top and bottom, have black bars on the sides?

Well, there can be all sorts of weirdness... some games don't directly support it but can be configured with Flawless Widescreen, some games just won't display HUD or dialogue popups correctly, overlap, partially offscreen, etc... some games you need to play in windowed mode or they'll stretch 21:9 which looks absolutely horrid, a few games just will stretch with no way to play windowed mode making them unplayable.

If you own a 21:9, you find yourself checking forums to make sure you have 21:9 support before buying a game.

Most newer titles support it just fine though. It's really amazing when they do. Many titles that support 21:9 only have 16:9 cutscenes and menus sometimes... and even a game that fully supports 21:9 might have minor visual problems that don't really affect anything, just aren't very flattering... menus in 16:9, cutscenes with added letterbox....

So yeah, sometimes *any particular game* may not work as intended. So there is a sizable list of cons. But once you get that ultra wide gaming experience, it really makes the slight fuss worthwhile.
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I love my Dell 3415W. Mine has minor glow/blb in one corner and I am sure the response time isn't like the newest Swift ect. But I have won many a BF4 and Unreal Tournament match with it so I don't really care about every ms I can save. Until 4K gets the scaling fixed its a non option for me. I love the 21:9 aspect ratio it just fills the field of view nicely and way more immersion.

If game doesn't support 21:9 you can always run 16x9 and just have the monitor display it in the center so no loss. Not like it has to be in 21:9 to look right.

My .02c
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Personally I'd get a 16:9 (or better yet, a 16:10 tongue.gif) monitor that has the same or similar width as a 21:9 display that is of interest, and then make a 21:9 custom resolution for games while still having the full 16:9/10 for desktop use or for games that don't support 21:9.

This however requires setting the "maintain aspect ratio" scaling option in your GPU control panel.
 
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You have to pick between superfast high resolution 16:9 or meh spec ultra wide immersion from 21:9. What's more important to you?

If you want 4k, I'd suggest waiting a GPU generation or two unless you want to SLI high end cards. My single 980 powers 21:9 very well... with a good OC I can run most games maxed with 2xaa and get acceptable fps 45+... getting a solid 60fps out of most games isn't that difficult.

I think the hassle of owning 21:9 gaming is worth the benefit in immersion.

Some games will just not work right on 21:9 no matter what. Some will work windowed. But for the games that do work fine, I don't think 21:9 can be beat. I won't be going back to 16:9.

Amen. The only type of 16:9 monitor that could compare to the immersion of a 21:9 monitor would be a 4K television with these features...

32-34" for adequate width.
HDMI 2.0 or display port for 4K / 60Hz
4:4:4 chroma to eliminate the rainbow effect of text.
Low input lag and fast response time to eliminate ghosting.

There is no television with those specs yet. But if it existed, it wouldn't be a television, it would be a computer monitor, therefore priced for "enthusiasts". You see, we can never really win. There has to to a line drawn between TV and computer monitor which must not be blurred, for marketing reasons. It truly sucks to be a PC gamer who wants both a big enough screen with good text readability. We just can't have it both ways.

http://reckoner.com.au/2014/12/4k-monitor-buying-guide/
Edited by aweir - 4/1/15 at 6:28pm
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The only reason there's no TV with those specs is because LG hasn't made any 4k OLED displays smaller than 55" - everything else is already present (though the input lag could be debated since different people have different tolerances).

However, considering that LG Display will be cutting all investments in LCD R&D starting 2016 and going all-in with OLED, it's only a matter of time that we'll get proper consumer OLED monitors and the like - I mean, LG Display is the largest manufacturer of PC display panels.
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I have been looking at the Panasonic 4k TV's, as they have a displayport connection available, but don't seem to come in the 40" size I am looking for. If you want a large screen 4k, that is where I would be looking.
40" 4k monitors I so far have only found on Ebay. I got my 3 crossovers from SKorea using Ebay, but I would prefer to buy in the US if possible. What I have heard/seen (haven't bothered to do the math myself) is that most if not all TV's using HDMI 2.0 won't be able to do the 4:4:4 chroma @60hz due to HDCP overhead.
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The only reason there's no TV with those specs is because LG hasn't made any 4k OLED displays smaller than 55" - everything else is already present (though the input lag could be debated since different people have different tolerances).
OLED is incredible!! (Just need to eliminate that burn-in...) I'll be receiving a 21:9 curved LG monitor tomorrow. There is no TV in the world that could make a curved screen worthwhile to me, monitors on the other hand...
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