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I want to buy a new processor but I want to save my pennies and do this smartly. Here's what I own:

I have a Crossfire V mobo (first gen) (used to have a watercooled Phenom 1100T, now a Sempron 145) in a beautiful HAF 932 case with a ton of radiators and LEDs and blah blah, it was a great build about 4 years ago with tri-fire 6970s. Sold the graphics cards, and repurposed the 1100T. Now This thing needs a new processor because the Sempron 145 is a dog. The simplest solution is to buy a FX-8350, bolt on my watercooling and call it a day. A used FX8350 is right around $125for used on ebay. Just about right for my price range. I will probably mildly overclock it, but not really a big deal for me as I won't be running any graphics cards worth noting in here, this will mainly be my go-pro editing machine.

Now here's the dilemma. I also have in my posession an MSI Z77A-G45 mobo which currently has a Celeron dual core processor in it (Not quite strong enough for 1080P video for gopro editting). I can bolt in this mobo into my case, still use my water loop, and put in an ivy bridge i5-3570k with a mild overclock as well. This will run me about $175 for used on ebay.

I also have a BTC H81 mobo which can take a haswell processor, but the mobo sucks. I can't imagine it'd overclock well at all. I bought it during the bitcoin craze and used it to run 6 R9 290s to mine. I think the mobo is worth like $20 on ebay. But it is an option. Processor is about $190 on ebay for a used one.

I will sell off whichever parts I do not use, I understand all three are dead end chipsets so I'm not expecting to make much money on them. Is it worth the extra $50 to go ivy bridge here? Or $65 to go Haswell? I will probably never game on this PC, I have two young kids and no time to play games, all I do now is edit go pro videos. Actually, I collect tons of go pro video content, but cannot edit because the sempron 145 is a dog and cannot process 1080p video.

I guess I'm looking for some sage advice, what would you do?
Edited by Markolc - 3/28/15 at 8:09pm
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I want to buy a new processor but I want to save my pennies and do this smartly. Here's what I own:

I have a Crossfire V mobo (first gen) (used to have a watercooled Phenom 1100T, now a Sempron 145) in a beautiful HAF 932 case with a ton of radiators and LEDs and blah blah, it was a great build about 4 years ago with tri-fire 6970s. Sold the graphics cards, and repurposed the 1100T. Now This thing needs a new processor because the Sempron 145 is a dog. The simplest solution is to buy a FX-8350, bolt on my watercooling and call it a day. A used FX8350 is right around $125for used on ebay. Just about right for my price range. I will probably mildly overclock it, but not really a big deal for me as I won't be running any graphics cards worth noting in here, this will mainly be my go-pro editing machine.

Now here's the dilemma. I also have in my posession an MSI Z77A-G45 mobo which currently has a Celeron dual core processor in it (Not quite strong enough for 1080P video for gopro editting). I can bolt in this mobo into my case, still use my water loop, and put in an ivy bridge i5-3570k with a mild overclock as well. This will run me about $175 for used on ebay.

I also have a BTC H81 mobo which can take a haswell processor, but the mobo sucks. I can't imagine it'd overclock well at all. I bought it during the bitcoin craze and used it to run 6 R9 290s to mine. I think the mobo is worth like $20 on ebay. But it is an option. Processor is about $190 on ebay for a used one.

I will sell off whichever parts I do not use, I understand all three are dead end chipsets so I'm not expecting to make much money on them. Is it worth the extra $50 to go ivy bridge here? Or $65 to go Haswell? I will probably never game on this PC, I have two young kids and no time to play games, all I do now is edit go pro videos. Actually, I collect tons of go pro video content, but cannot edit because the sempron 145 is a dog and cannot process 1080p video.

I guess I'm looking for some sage advice, what would you do?

I would honestly take the Crosshair V + FX-8350 (Formula, I suppose?). It's probably going to be the best of the bunch. (maybe just because I've never owned an AMD platform in my life and I would probably try it if I were in your shoes)

Z77 is decent, but two things would keep me from going the IVB route.

1: Ivy Bridge CPUs...on newegg.ca there is only an i3 and G2030. On newegg.com there are only a handful of i5s; the i5-3570K is "Coming Soon" which probably means the same thing as "Out of Stock, Discontinued". These happen to be about the same price as their Haswell counterparts. A lot of people complained about Haswell, saying that its IPC/cache improvements were minimal compared to Ivy Bridge. This is not true. Perhaps all the mainstream gamers (BF3/BF4) felt like they were being shafted by Intel because the cores/threads count remains the same and performance is the same in multi-threaded games, but I play a lot of single-threaded games, old games, and Ivy Bridge CPUs were disappointing. And in 2015...unless you are buying used for a VERY good price, which is probably the only option now, there's no point to go Ivy Bridge.

2. MSI's track record for Z77...let's just not go there. Sin's VRM list has the G43 and mATX G45 squarely at the bottom of the list as quite possibly the worst VRMs MSI has ever bothered to put on an Intel board. No info on the G45 ATX; it looks like a 6-phase (or doubled 3-phase?) so it would be different from the above two, but I still wouldn't go for it.

If this all sounds irrelevant to you, do buy the i5-3570K. It's not a bad CPU by a long stretch.

The H81 BTC looks like such a sketchy board that I wouldn't even consider it on the list of my options. Plus, it reminds me of all the lies ASRock spreads about its budget boards generation after generation after generation...it looks like nothing has changed since the 7-series. Digital VRM? In your dreams, even though ASRock says yes. 4-phase VRM? Hell yeah, let's gets some more crappy ISL9xxx to power these. From the appearance of those MOSFETs and the fact that the board is narrower than anything I have ever seen, I would probably cut this from the list pretty fast. Let it mine bitcoins like it was designed to do.

I think the FX-9370 and FX-9590 are also supported by the Crosshair V Formula; the FX-9370 is manageable under a NH-D14/15 or TC14PE, I think. THe FX-9590 is obviously not possible for an air cooler to handle.
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Carry-on
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HH02
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HS03
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-4790K Gigabyte H97N-WIFI EVGA GTX 750 Ti 16GB Kingston Fury 1600 9-10-9-28 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
500GB Samsung 850 EVO Noctua NH-D9L Windows 10 Home AOC i2369VM 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Pok3r (MX Browns, Lacewood case, SA Troubled Mi... Silverstone ST45SF-G v2.0 Silverstone SG08-Lite Logitech G602 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-4460 Gigabyte Z97MX Gaming 5 Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X 8GB ADATA XPG 1.0 DDR3-1600  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
1TB Blue  128GB SP610 Noctua NH-U9B SE2 Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung S24D390HL Logitech K280E EVGA G2 750W Cooler Master N200 
Mouse
Logitech LX3 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 Acer G43T-AM3 Intel GMA X4500 (G43/G45 chipset integrated) 4GB DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSPower
640GB WD Caviar Blue 500GB Seagate Barracuda Ubuntu 14.10 CM Elite Power 460W 
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