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I guess if you like a super bright monitor. The grainy glossy coating is also a bit off putting.

I can share my settings if you'd like. This is the best looking display I've used in a long, long time. No issues with the coating either.
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I guess if you like a super bright monitor. The grainy glossy coating is also a bit off putting.

I can post my settings if you'd like. It's absolutely stunning with my current settings. It's a TAD bit cool because I haven't done my calibration on it but other than that, amazing.

Also, have no issue with grainy coating at all.
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I can share my settings if you'd like. This is the best looking display I've used in a long, long time. No issues with the coating either.
I can post my settings if you'd like. It's absolutely stunning with my current settings. It's a TAD bit cool because I haven't done my calibration on it but other than that, amazing.

Also, have no issue with grainy coating at all.

You aren't looking close enough then? It definitely has a very glossy coating which looks "grainy" if you are close enough to the screen (within 2 feet). It doesn't actually matter what setting you use with the screen, even at 0 brightness you are still looking at a panel with a 130+ cd/m2 luminance which is extremely bright for that level of settings (by comparison the average monitor will be about 130 cd/m2 at 40/100 brightness). Clearly this is how Crossover got around the PWM flicker that plagues the Philips monitor. It's a nice screen, but the Acer B32H6K that I just sold to a friend was better (better colors, no grainy coating, but obviously much worse blacks and blb). I certainly would not call this a top tier screen though.
 
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Doesn't seem that grainy but I'm not into hi-gloss at all.
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You aren't looking close enough then? It definitely has a very glossy coating which looks "grainy" if you are close enough to the screen (within 2 feet). It doesn't actually matter what setting you use with the screen, even at 0 brightness you are still looking at a panel with a 130+ cd/m2 luminance which is extremely bright for that level of settings (by comparison the average monitor will be about 130 cd/m2 at 40/100 brightness). Clearly this is how Crossover got around the PWM flicker that plagues the Philips monitor. It's a nice screen, but the Acer B32H6K that I just sold to a friend was better (better colors, no grainy coating, but obviously much worse blacks and blb). I certainly would not call this a top tier screen though.

If I put my face up against it, I can see some grain but who sits even near that to notice?

I agree, its not a perfect monitor but for the price, there is nothing that even comes close. Also, if a "top tier" screen has crappy blacks and horrid blb, is it really top tier? I can take a dump in a box and label it "top tier" smile.gif

All jokes aside, the monitor market in general right now is an absolute joke. I have tested almost every 4k monitor and 34" Ultrawide on the market in the past few months. The LGs are gorgeous but tons of blb issues. The Acer and Samsung 32" 4ks I tried were gorgeous on still images but had blur on fast paced games. So, in all my testing, nothing has even come close to the 44k in still image quality, gaming and value, despite the absolutely horrid stand thumb.gif
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If I put my face up against it, I can see some grain but who sits even near that to notice?

I agree, its not a perfect monitor but for the price, there is nothing that even comes close. Also, if a "top tier" screen has crappy blacks and horrid blb, is it really top tier? I can take a dump in a box and label it "top tier" smile.gif

All jokes aside, the monitor market in general right now is an absolute joke. I have tested almost every 4k monitor and 34" Ultrawide on the market in the past few months. The LGs are gorgeous but tons of blb issues. The Acer and Samsung 32" 4ks I tried were gorgeous on still images but had blur on fast paced games. So, in all my testing, nothing has even come close to the 44k in still image quality, gaming and value, despite the absolutely horrid stand thumb.gif

I'd assume anyone sitting at a desk and not using it as a television? I have a standard desk and the stand is wide enough that the monitor sits about 6 inches from the end of the desk with the stand at the very edge. In order to properly reach my mouse + keyboard I have to sit about 2 feet away from the screen. I will be wall mounting it in the future though.

The Acer I was talking about is definitely a top tier screen for IPS if you can get one without BLB. Sadly that is apparently impossible as all of them suffer from it pretty badly. All IPS have crappy blacks compared to VA so that's not really an argument, they are still considered the de facto best screens for professionals as their color quality and viewing angles just aren't matched even by VA (even with the much worse blacks).

The monitor market is pretty weak right now. I didn't say the Crossover was bad as for the money I paid it's still fairly good for 40", but the brightness issue is really appalling and with the prices these screens are going for right now I may very well find myself selling it.
 
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Yeah, Digital I don't have your experience in current market , no monitor is perfect. This CO is a good balance of features and at the price most of us paid its hard to beat . I'm thinking we're on the cusp right now. The panel landscape is in flux, connectivity is moving along rapidly every month some new implementation raises the bar. I was looking on Monoprice their 28" IPS UHD is going for $400 and all of that panels siblings have dropped in price so much its unbelievable. The new lineups are coming out soon.
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I'd assume anyone sitting at a desk and not using it as a television? I have a standard desk and the stand is wide enough that the monitor sits about 6 inches from the end of the desk with the stand at the very edge. In order to properly reach my mouse + keyboard I have to sit about 2 feet away from the screen. I will be wall mounting it in the future though.

The Acer I was talking about is definitely a top tier screen for IPS if you can get one without BLB. Sadly that is apparently impossible as all of them suffer from it pretty badly. All IPS have crappy blacks compared to VA so that's not really an argument, they are still considered the de facto best screens for professionals as their color quality and viewing angles just aren't matched even by VA (even with the much worse blacks).

The monitor market is pretty weak right now. I didn't say the Crossover was bad as for the money I paid it's still fairly good for 40", but the brightness issue is really appalling and with the prices these screens are going for right now I may very well find myself selling it.

Fair enough. I just don't have an issue with the brightness I guess or yours is defective. I can hook up my i1 later to it to measure brightness, etc.

On monitor market, I agree 100%. It really sucks
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Fair enough. I just don't have an issue with the brightness I guess or yours is defective. I can hook up my i1 later to it to measure brightness, etc.

On monitor market, I agree 100%. It really sucks

The monitor isn't defective. I have spoken with someone else who owns the screen and that's just how it is. You wouldn't notice the brightness if you were in a well lit room, but for the room I am in really a 100 cd/m2 or less with 5800k white point would be the best possible option to avoid eye strain. I have to keep the room completely blindered out otherwise it would be 90 degrees really quick with the heat we have in FL right now. And the lights have to be kept really low to avoid reflection from the glossy screen. I think this panel is just naturally really bright and that is why Philips used PWM on their version to get it to lower levels of brightness.
 
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The monitor isn't defective. I have spoken with someone else who owns the screen and that's just how it is. You wouldn't notice the brightness if you were in a well lit room, but for the room I am in really a 100 cd/m2 or less with 5800k white point would be the best possible option to avoid eye strain. I have to keep the room completely blindered out otherwise it would be 90 degrees really quick with the heat we have in FL right now. And the lights have to be kept really low to avoid reflection from the glossy screen. I think this panel is just naturally really bright and that is why Philips used PWM on their version to get it to lower levels of brightness.

i do agree with the monitor being quite bright, and at 0 brightness i think i might be able to see a bit of flicker. i set my brightness to 20 and i'm perfectly okay with it.

i try and keep the extremely white pages to a minimum and change the layout's to darker themes on most websites but even still its still not bad.

i have yet to get dizzy using this thing over the past month and i get dizzy very easily. i have many 10+ hour sessions using this thing and its been nothing but brilliant.
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i do agree with the monitor being quite bright, and at 0 brightness i think i might be able to see a bit of flicker. i set my brightness to 20 and i'm perfectly okay with it.

i try and keep the extremely white pages to a minimum and change the layout's to darker themes on most websites but even still its still not bad.

i have yet to get dizzy using this thing over the past month and i get dizzy very easily. i have many 10+ hour sessions using this thing and its been nothing but brilliant.

You are probably sensitive to PWM. This panel is PWM free so likely that's why you aren't getting dizzy. I don't much care for PWM myself either.
 
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