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I agree with you on a new router, if he is willing to pay for a decent one. But the extender would be placed where it'll get a decent signal from the router and... exntend it.

I have a network in the house that consists of a modem, 2 routers, and an extender. ( the extender connects to the main router via wireless and has an ethernet running from it to the second router) The places where there isn't direct connection to the first router has less speed, but the latency isn't really different, It goes from 4ms if i speedtest on the main router to 6 ms if i connect to the last router. Packet loss isn't an issue as I played a lot online multiplayer games on Xbox One and PC.


Well you are actually using the extender as a wireless bridge. And really one could do the same things with Ethernet over Power Line, as long as the wiring in the hose permits it.


Most wireless Extenders have a single wireless chipset, and relays the data. But by design it cuts the original throughput in half, and adds even more latency than what you are seeing. Granted The Added Latency is no where near as bad as using 3g/4g.


Considering the iPad just has a poor connection, a stronger router would solve the problem. A repeater would make sense if the iPad was out of wireless range though. IMO buying a repeater just for the iPad to use is kinda of a waste. But if he likes the router he already has, not totally a bad idea. Not like a iPad really needs good internet. Probably used mostly for facebook anyways. rolleyes.gif

But I would get one that allows you to output on a different SSID & Channel. Otherwise it will just cause more problems.



I would still get a new router. 5ghz for performance/streaming, 2.4ghz for web browsing.
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I recommend Ubiquiti UniFi Long Range Access Point.

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UniFi-Access-UAP-LR-US-Version/dp/B005H4CDF4
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I will look into the netgear model, i do not mind spending extra $ for something I will not replace in years.

And yes I'm aware alot of things support 5ghz however the range of that signal gives me no reception anywhere remotly far from the router so I never bothered to set it up.

The netgear r7000 pretty much the top of the line currently? Any other ones worth considering for range and stability?

Thank you for taking the time to help.
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I would get an R7000 if I were you.

Extenders are a bad idea.

A super-high powered router is also a bad idea.

You can read more in the Wireless Networking Master Thread in my sig. Read through the myths, especially
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If money isn't an issue, the Netgear Nighthawk X4 (R7500) and Nighthawk X6 (R8000) are better choices than the Nighthawk (R7000). For starters, both the X4 and X6 get better user reviews than the Nighthawk does. I recently chose the X4 over the X6 to replace my aging (5+years) Netgear router that was starting to fail on me because it has more and better connectivity options than the X6 (two USB 3.0 ports instead of one USB2.0 and USB 3.0 each and an e-SATA port vs. none on the X6) that I can use in the future and I didn't need more than two bands (my printer and notebooks have to use the 2.43GHz band but my desktop daily driver can use the 5GHz band, avoiding potential interference from my neighbors' networks; a second 5GHz band would have been superfluous). With both priced in the mid to high $200 range, the $30 price difference between the two wasn't as significant to me as the increased peripheral connectivity (the fact that Newegg had a nice free Netgear router thrown in at the time was a nice bonus, though). The single 5GHz band of the X4 is faster than the two 5GHz bands of the X6, although my ISP doesn't even come within high power rifle shot distance of either of those speeds, making that a point moot for now. Setup was easy; just make sure, once it is up and working, that you change the name and password of the network.
     
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If money isn't an issue, the Netgear Nighthawk X4 (R7500) and Nighthawk X6 (R8000) are better choices than the Nighthawk (R7000). For starters, both the X4 and X6 get better user reviews than the Nighthawk does. I recently chose the X4 over the X6 to replace my aging (5+years) Netgear router that was starting to fail on me because it has more and better connectivity options than the X6 (two USB 3.0 ports instead of one USB2.0 and USB 3.0 each and an e-SATA port vs. none on the X6) that I can use in the future and I didn't need more than two bands (my printer and notebooks have to use the 2.43GHz band but my desktop daily driver can use the 5GHz band, avoiding potential interference from my neighbors' networks; a second 5GHz band would have been superfluous). With both priced in the mid to high $200 range, the $30 price difference between the two wasn't as significant to me as the increased peripheral connectivity (the fact that Newegg had a nice free Netgear router thrown in at the time was a nice bonus, though). The single 5GHz band of the X4 is faster than the two 5GHz bands of the X6, although my ISP doesn't even come within high power rifle shot distance of either of those speeds, making that a point moot for now. Setup was easy; just make sure, once it is up and working, that you change the name and password of the network.

Actually the R7000 just has more bad reviews, simply because it sells more. That is pretty standard with anything that sells more, you have more people to write about the problems. Which people are more likely to do.


The Broadcom chip in the R7000 and R8000 (BCM4360) is a better performing chip than the Quantenna based one in the R7500. The Quantenna based chip only does better if you have another 4x4:4 client on the other end, which no client other than a Access point would have. It is pretty rare for a laptop to even have a 3x3:3 setup, and most phones/tablets are 1x1:1.
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If money isn't an issue, the Netgear Nighthawk X4 (R7500) and Nighthawk X6 (R8000) are better choices than the Nighthawk (R7000). For starters, both the X4 and X6 get better user reviews than the Nighthawk does. I recently chose the X4 over the X6 to replace my aging (5+years) Netgear router that was starting to fail on me because it has more and better connectivity options than the X6 (two USB 3.0 ports instead of one USB2.0 and USB 3.0 each and an e-SATA port vs. none on the X6) that I can use in the future and I didn't need more than two bands (my printer and notebooks have to use the 2.43GHz band but my desktop daily driver can use the 5GHz band, avoiding potential interference from my neighbors' networks; a second 5GHz band would have been superfluous). With both priced in the mid to high $200 range, the $30 price difference between the two wasn't as significant to me as the increased peripheral connectivity (the fact that Newegg had a nice free Netgear router thrown in at the time was a nice bonus, though). The single 5GHz band of the X4 is faster than the two 5GHz bands of the X6, although my ISP doesn't even come within high power rifle shot distance of either of those speeds, making that a point moot for now. Setup was easy; just make sure, once it is up and working, that you change the name and password of the network.

Actually the R7000 just has more bad reviews, simply because it sells more. That is pretty standard with anything that sells more, you have more people to write about the problems. Which people are more likely to do...

Seriously? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It doesn't matter how many more of anything has been sold, it's the PERCENTAGE of bad reviews out of all the reviews that matters and the PERCENTAGE of bad reviews is higher for the R7000. That first comment of yours totally discredits anything else you may say.
     
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Seriously? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It doesn't matter how many more of anything has been sold, it's the PERCENTAGE of bad reviews out of all the reviews that matters and the PERCENTAGE of bad reviews is higher for the R7000. That first comment of yours totally discredits anything else you may say.

The RMA rate for both the R7000 and R7500 could be the same.

But if the R7000 sells more, you have more people with problems.


People are most likely to write a review about a bad experience than a good one.

I for one hardly leave a review myself unless I had a problem with the unit. This is pretty common.


The R7000 is a tank of a router, vary low chance of getting a bad unit. No more than any high end router.
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Seriously? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It doesn't matter how many more of anything has been sold, it's the PERCENTAGE of bad reviews out of all the reviews that matters and the PERCENTAGE of bad reviews is higher for the R7000. That first comment of yours totally discredits anything else you may say.

The RMA rate for both the R7000 and R7500 could be the same.

But if the R7000 sells more, you have more people with problems.


People are most likely to write a review about a bad experience than a good one.

I for one hardly leave a review myself unless I had a problem with the unit. This is pretty common.


The R7000 is a tank of a router, vary low chance of getting a bad unit. No more than any high end router.

What part of percentages do you not understand? Your "logic" is absurd! If one out of every ten people have a problem with each of two different products, it doesn't matter if one product sold ten times as many as the other one, the PERCENTAGE stays the same!
     
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What part of percentages do you not understand? Your "logic" is absurd! If one out of every ten people have a problem with each of two different products, it doesn't matter if one product sold ten times as many as the other one, the PERCENTAGE stays the same!

First off, Your Logic is absurd!

Reviews don't dictate the % of actual failure rates. Never have and never will.


The R7000 is the most popular and by far highest selling high end router on the market. It has seen more hands than the R7500 ever could. Therefor there have been more bad eggs, but doesn't mean the RMA rate is any different than the R7500. Just more people to write about them.

What do you not get about, people are more likely to leave a review if they have a problem? And why are we using Reviews to determine failure rates?
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