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I know I'm about to open a can of worms by asking this, but I'm wanting to build a budget system to play Wow on and have put together 3 systems for your opinions.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/h8PPNG

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/sestes071/saved/K2fCmG

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kNY399

I'm looking for something that I can play WOW at Good to Very good setting and stay like around 60fps. I'm sure I'll going in on some 25 man raids so looking St something that I won't have crap fps.
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rather spend more on a gpu and do away with the ssd - I always find it pointless when people on a budget wanting a gaming machine. Rather have the best graphics then worry about my system booting up quicker biggrin.gifthumb.gif
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SSD makes a huge difference though in WoW loading times. I remember the first video on youtube about SSDs i watched was a guy loading the game in Dalaran.

I think this was it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47dt-y27eYk

I build a WoW system for my brother 2,5 years ago with a i3 and a HD 7770 and it runs fine so I would get the first one.
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post #4 of 32
okay if your life evolves around WOW only - also read the comments, seem to be a lot of different answers, and i can understand initial load up but not constantly thumb.gif

What the hell is a "Western Digital Caviar" (blue, black, green, 32mb cache, 64mb cache, 3gb/s, 6gb/s) ? If you're going to do a comparison at least do it properly.
Edited by ladcrooks - 4/7/15 at 2:15am
post #5 of 32
The third.maybe get a better mobo and a cpu cooler like a rijintek ereboss or xigmatek prime
post #6 of 32
3rd
but only if you ever upgrade to a better cpu in the future.

I even get a big difference in WoW with a 3570K compared to a 4790K
A GTX 960 is perfect for WoW smile.gif (i got one to)

Its CPU then GPU for WoW
Overclocking the CPU helps ALOT, so does an SSD wink.gif
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post #7 of 32
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Originally Posted by Farih View Post

3rd
but only if you ever upgrade to a better cpu in the future.

I even get a big difference in WoW with a 3570K compared to a 4790K
A GTX 960 is perfect for WoW smile.gif (i got one to)

Its CPU then GPU for WoW
Overclocking the CPU helps ALOT, so does an SSD wink.gif

Oh I planed on overlocking the CPU one of the reasons I'm going with the Pentium with plans on upgrading to a better CPU in the future
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post #8 of 32
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The third.maybe get a better mobo and a cpu cooler like a rijintek ereboss or xigmatek prime

The Mobo is the only micro Z97 with PCI-e 3.0 I can find in my price range that from what reviews I've read they all give it a thumbs up and say it's a perfect match for the Pentium. As for cooler I'm thinking of getting one since I'll be overlooking the CPU I just have to wait until I get the rig built first. I'm using a micro case so I have to see how much clearance I have.
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post #9 of 32
The MOBO doesnt have to a Z97 chipset, it can also be Z87

If you do get a better CPU in the future you should try getting it now, otherwise you will just throw away 1 cpu in the end.
If you cant afford that right now i do understand this choice though.

What you should get though is a better motherboard if you want to OC in the future, sure the ECS could be ok for a G3258 but i wouldnt want to overclock a 4690K or so on that.
Spend a bit more for something better, you want mATX so maybe a Asus Z87 Gryphon ?
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post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by Farih View Post

The MOBO doesnt have to a Z97 chipset, it can also be Z87

If you do get a better CPU in the future you should try getting it now, otherwise you will just throw away 1 cpu in the end.
If you cant afford that right now i do understand this choice though.

What you should get though is a better motherboard if you want to OC in the future, sure the ECS could be ok for a G3258 but i wouldnt want to overclock a 4690K or so on that.
Spend a bit more for something better, you want mATX so maybe a Asus Z87 Gryphon ?

OK Cool I'll take a look. This is going to be my first ever build always had store bought rigs so still trying to figure the in and outs while keeping it under $500 and keeping it small smile.gif The main thing is making sure the GPU will fits I bought the XION XON-560 mATX/ ITX Meshed Mini Tower which states that it can hold up to a 13" card but I've read enough to know some times that's not always true

Edited: Took a look at the Asus Z87 Gryphon way out of budget range but will look at others
Edited by Niteowl71 - 4/7/15 at 10:51am
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