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There are AMD 4p's on ebay for like $500 (mobo and cpu only) 36 cores for 500 isnt bad. The memory isn't cheap though, if you wanted to populate all 4 channels / cpu you're looking at another 600-650.

I need to look up the performance/watt for the various systems. I will probably just upgrade my current 4P rig. I had problems in yoyo because I don't have but 16GB of memory and problems in malaria control because the hard drive couldn't keep up. I also had problems updating the config files from a remote desktop via teamviewer on a phone. I can't directly run teamviewer on the 4P because they think it is a commercial system.
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Was looking at Westmere-EX lol. The sticker price is higher, but the lower power bill makes it easier to live with.

How big was the efficiency boost from 45nm to 32nm? Performance gains weren't too good, but that's typical of Intel when they do their die shrinks. I guess that makes it sort-of acceptable that Broadwell and Cannonlake aren't making it to mainstream desktops (if I understood the recent roadmaps correctly) since Haswell and Skylake, respectively, are close enough.

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I need to look up the performance/watt for the various systems. I will probably just upgrade my current 4P rig. I had problems in yoyo because I don't have but 16GB of memory and problems in malaria control because the hard drive couldn't keep up. I also had problems updating the config files from a remote desktop via teamviewer on a phone. I can't directly run teamviewer on the 4P because they think it is a commercial system.

Westmere is pretty competitive with Abu Dhabi (dual-die Piledriver) in multithreaded performance, but that's it. Hopefully Zen finally fixes singlethreaded issues, and, since it seems to share a lot of designs with Jaguar, it should be pretty efficient on 14nm. Probably not as good as Cannonlake of course, but again, Intel has been going Mobile -> Desktop -> Server with several months between releases so Zen might be competing with Skylake-EP after all.

What are you running now? 4x8 = 32 Sandy Bridge cores? That's, uh, not too shabby. 4x10 or 4x12 Ivy Bridge cores are the next best things, but I'm honestly not sure an upgrade is worth it. Not now at least, since Ivy is still new enough that it costs too much.

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There are AMD 4p's on ebay for like $500 (mobo and cpu only) 36 cores for 500 isnt bad. The memory isn't cheap though, if you wanted to populate all 4 channels / cpu you're looking at another 600-650.

I already know what motherboard(s) I want. For LGA-1366, it's the X8DTT boards. Those are proprietary form-factors. Imagine mITX, but stretch it out to fit a second socket. For AMD, the dual-socket G34 H8DGT boards are effectively the same. The problem is that those boards alone cost more than an entire Westmere-EP system, and the CPUs are slower and cost more!

So I think I'll skip AMD. We'll see what Zen has to offer, but for now, Westmere-EP's price can not be beaten. Abu Dhabi supports some newer instruction sets, but those aren't really used in BOINC and therefore are of minimal concern.
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What are you running now? 4x8 = 32 Sandy Bridge cores? That's, uh, not too shabby. 4x10 or 4x12 Ivy Bridge cores are the next best things, but I'm honestly not sure an upgrade is worth it. Not now at least, since Ivy is still new enough that it costs too much..
Running 4 x 8 32 core Sandy Bridge right now. When I say upgrade, I mean more memory and better hard drives. Probably going to go 64G memory and an SSD. I was running an SSD, but it died and right now I am running a cheapo 1 TB sata drive. I may try a server grade SSD. Boinc running 64 processes beats the crap out of the hard drive.
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Running 4 x 8 32 core Sandy Bridge right now. When I say upgrade, I mean more memory and better hard drives. Probably going to go 64G memory and an SSD. I was running an SSD, but it died and right now I am running a cheapo 1 TB sata drive. I may try a server grade SSD. Boinc running 64 processes beats the crap out of the hard drive.

Ya there are a couple projects that have a decent amount of reads and writes (I'm looking at you, Rosetta)
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Running 4 x 8 32 core Sandy Bridge right now. When I say upgrade, I mean more memory and better hard drives. Probably going to go 64G memory and an SSD. I was running an SSD, but it died and right now I am running a cheapo 1 TB sata drive. I may try a server grade SSD. Boinc running 64 processes beats the crap out of the hard drive.

Lol, server drive. I wouldn't bother. Check PC Part Picker, sort by price per byte, and go for the cheapest ones. Crucial (sans V4), ADATA (sans SP600), Corsair, OCZ, and some others are all cheap and good up to around 1PB of writes before kicking the bucket. $100 or less for a quarter-terabyte.
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Lol, server drive. I wouldn't bother. Check PC Part Picker, sort by price per byte, and go for the cheapest ones. Crucial (sans V4), ADATA (sans SP600), Corsair, OCZ, and some others are all cheap and good up to around 1PB of writes before kicking the bucket. $100 or less for a quarter-terabyte.

That is what I have been doing and I am on the third drive in about 1 year. 2 SSD and one standard sata drive have gone byebye. The current standard sata drive is not fast enough. I could only run about 40 malaria control tasks without the drive maxing out and slowing everything down.
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There are AMD 4p's on ebay for like $500 (mobo and cpu only) 36 cores for 500 isnt bad. The memory isn't cheap though, if you wanted to populate all 4 channels / cpu you're looking at another 600-650.

I need to look up the performance/watt for the various systems. I will probably just upgrade my current 4P rig. I had problems in yoyo because I don't have but 16GB of memory and problems in malaria control because the hard drive couldn't keep up. I also had problems updating the config files from a remote desktop via teamviewer on a phone. I can't directly run teamviewer on the 4P because they think it is a commercial system.

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SB-E and new Intel 2p > AMD 4p perf/w

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That is indeed pretty annoying, I got my copy of WinServ through my uni. Windows RD works pretty well tho.

 
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Great job everyone and thank you for participating in this years pentathlon. Prizes will be sorted as soon as possible. Special thank you goes out to all the members that have helped with delegating when to switch projects.
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SB-E and new Intel 2p > AMD 4p perf/w

That is indeed pretty annoying, I got my copy of WinServ through my uni. Windows RD works pretty well tho.
I noticed that some of the new 2P 28 thread Haswell-EP systems outperform my 4P 64 thread SB-E system. The Haswell-EX 4P systems are jaw dropping.
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Ugh now y'all got me looking at 2P systems. You can get a couple of 6 core xeons + a motherboard off ebay for about $350 total. Thats really not bad at all.
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