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post #21 of 64
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I just like the simple things - nothing more wink.gif
And PC case with 4-6-8 fans that must be quiet - no, no this is not for me. When I can do something with less and to have good result - I like it more.
post #22 of 64
inhouse geothermal thumb.gif

A few things though... as others have said
-you'll get fantastic results if you invest in a *real* brand waterblock, even the cheapest brand CPU waterblock (like a Phobya UC2) will drastically outperform the contraption you have there;
-you need bigger bore pipe, like 1/2 " (12mm) , the current 1.4" (6mm) is waaay to restrictive for any length
-with bigger bore pipe, you may be able to get away with the pump you have, but even so... consider getting a decent D5 pump in the long run

Now, if you really want, you could go to the plumbing/heating section of the local hardware store and look at the stuff needed for underfloor heating, including a Grundfoss HVAC pump smile.gif
You could make it soo large that you could hook up a bank of computers to it smile.gif


On more thing thou.. you know what happens to copper over time when encased in concrete/cement? ..
Ask a plumber.. if he says "nothing at all", then NEVER have that plumber do anything for you.


But i like what your doing, its a good starting point to get serious smile.gif
post #23 of 64
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Hey RnRollie, thank you for joining in the discussion.

-If I change the water block I will craft it from something or I will get the cheapest from any China site smile.gif
-If I change the copper pipe I will do it with 8 mm or max 10 mm everything other is too huge for this situation. And I am not sure how effective it will be because the cement can't absorb too much heat. So if I want more effectiveness I will add more copper pipe.
-D5 pumps are nice but it is too expensive in this situation.
-I do not think that I will have problem between the cement and copper pipe. If eventually something happen it will be after long time and I will just change the pipe with new.

I bought new pump for 5$ and I waiting it. When it came I will plug them successively or I think to try and second circle separately. The first circle will be pump>CPU>container and second circle will be the second pump>copper pipe>container and this way I will skip the copper pipes's restrictiveness. The container will be only one.
This idea came to me while I was writing an answer to you, thank you smile.gif

I'm trying to make system that is cheap, effective and silence. From one side my budget is small from other side this is challenge for me biggrin.gif
post #24 of 64
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-If I change the water block I will craft it from something or I will get the cheapest from any China site smile.gif

Watch ebay then. I would not recommend crafting it yourself unless you have access to high end machining equipment, at least not if you want it to work good smile.gif
A good alternative is swiftech MCW60 / 80 / 82. The won't be quite as effective as an actual CPU block, but they will work 100 times better than what you have now. I picked up two MCW60's for $20 (cheaper than the china CPU block...)
The china blocks will have aluminum in them and will cause galvanic corrosion, or the straight copper blocks are just pipes inside some copper (I have some that I bought for a different purpose..)

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The first circle will be pump>CPU>container and second circle will be the second pump>copper pipe>container and this way I will skip the copper pipes's restrictiveness. The container will be only one.
This idea came to me while I was writing an answer to you, thank you smile.gif
That's not a bad idea! Make sure that your storage container is large enough to act as a buffer. Your CPU will heat it faster than the copper can cool it if the flow rates are significantly different!
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I'm trying to make system that is cheap, effective and silence. From one side my budget is small from other side this is challenge for me biggrin.gif
Good deal! It's awesome to set goals for yourself!
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post #25 of 64
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Watch ebay then. I would not recommend crafting it yourself unless you have access to high end machining equipment, at least not if you want it to work good smile.gif
A good alternative is swiftech MCW60 / 80 / 82. The won't be quite as effective as an actual CPU block, but they will work 100 times better than what you have now. I picked up two MCW60's for $20 (cheaper than the china CPU block...)
The china blocks will have aluminum in them and will cause galvanic corrosion, or the straight copper blocks are just pipes inside some copper (I have some that I bought for a different purpose..)


That's not a bad idea! Make sure that your storage container is large enough to act as a buffer. Your CPU will heat it faster than the copper can cool it if the flow rates are significantly different!

Good deal! It's awesome to set goals for yourself!

Do you mean that this are bad options ?

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Of course second hand MCW60 is deal too thumb.gif
About galvanic corrosion, I know about it and I do not have aluminum in my system smile.gif

But, I have a copper strip and there are companies that can cut whatever is needed, and the price will not be high. Not accidentally, I mentioned that I have such an option.
My container is 1 liter but is from plastic and I want to make it from glass.

Humm you are right for the two circles, but I can check it only when I have the second pump here smile.gif
post #26 of 64
Well, gotta say, those would def be better than what you have. I can't say as to how they'll actually perform as no one has bought any to throw into a comparison smile.gif

For the cost and shipping you could save up another $10 and get a name brand... Most (but not all!) of the name brand CPU blocks have flow diverters in them to direct the cold inlet directly at the die where the cores are located. The China blocks look to just be generic inlet / outlet.

But again, they should work better than what you have, so if that is what you want, then by all means give it a shot!
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OK, I found something that will lower my CPU temp in HWmonitor (or maybe I will back to RealTemp)
Today I found and read what is TJ max and why I need to set it on 85C. Of course I am not set it and it is by default so .... I need to set it when I back at home doh.gif
I am disappointed by myself sad-smiley-002.gif

I need to change and HWmonitor screenshots in my first post to be more accurate.
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OK, I'm add new screenshots with the new TJ max 85C.
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A little update, I found that this CPU can work on less voltage so now you can see it on 1.104V
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Nice temps thumb.gif
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