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ah I'll edit my post, it doesn't work with my soundblaster Z - causes it to stop functioning sorry! tongue.gif
also recall other users with the same issue
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It's "Creative" I guess. They're kinda known for having "meh" drivers.

Two people on the guru-thread (here on the last page http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=378044&page=11) say, that their ZxR work. While other Sound Blasters don't and the very last post says that his Zx works partially but it's buggy. That's one reason why I left the Creative Boat :/ Wonky drivers. Asus isn't much better I suppose but there we have the UNi-drivers. I remember that there were "custom" drivers for the Creative cards aswell, but I don't know if they can fix that MSI issue.

Not sure if it would be possible to mod the inf-file (like people do for nvidia) of the ZxR driver to use 'em on the Z. But that's kinda OT I guess tongue.gif
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I guess the part of the guide that described turning off everything and removing all usb devices besides mouse (ie. gimp the computer so it's *almost* useless) threw me off a bit; I can't see why this would be a beneficial thing to do (cut down a fully working rig to a partially working rig to gain 1ms response on your mouse), but then I cannot reproduce the mouse lag issue on my system.
Improvements beyond a certain "threshold" come with the caveat that you only go there if you want. tongue.gif It's a decision, there's pros and contras and it isn't purely about the "mousing" either (ironing some of these more extreme things out can for example improve video and audio playback and stuff, too) - I'm not preaching.

I'm btw. still interested in whether it is to some of our programmers here at all feasible to think of a way to introduce "MouseTester" or something similar to Linux. It would be interesting to get more insight into how the OS plays into polling behaviour (CPU interactions differ - if not fundamentally, at least significantly).
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I can't seem to find what IRQ my mouse is on, I think its connected to the only controller on my motherboard that is using the MSI Mode since the mouse is only thing plugged into a USB 3 port.
How does this result look to you guys? Probably not great (Corsair KATAR)
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@NeoReaper:

That's 100us variance at most over 9 seconds. It's not "great", but it's not bad either. At all. Nothing to worry about, but obviously room for improvement if you can be arsed.
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HAGGARD does having all this stuff disabled benefits CPU fluidity?

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@NeoReaper:

That's 100us variance at most over 9 seconds. It's not "great", but it's not bad either. At all. Nothing to worry about, but obviously room for improvement if you can be arsed.
I've tried most tweaks I can find on the mouse threads, my onboard audio is disabled as I use a Corsair VOID 7.1 for sound and the only things connected are headset, mouse and keyboard.
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I can't seem to find what IRQ my mouse is on, I think its connected to the only controller on my motherboard that is using the MSI Mode since the mouse is only thing plugged into a USB 3 port.
How does this result look to you guys? Probably not great (Corsair KATAR)

You could download USB Device Tree Viewer from here http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html (297KB)

Which would give you basically this.
Here with my Mionix Avior 7000 for example.



It's possible to do it with the Windows Device Manager, but I find this a lot easier and it's portable and small anyway.

Once you've identified the Controller, click on it. Then you have different ways to identify it in the "MSI mode utility" for example.

First one: "Driver Inf" - Shows you the Inf used by that Controller and the tool will also show it, right in the beginning.
Second one: "Device Path/ ID" - If you click any device in the MSI utility, it'll show you the Device ID at the bottom. Just compare it with the one from the Device Manager/ USB Device Tree Viewer.

Behind "Device Path" it'll also show you the GUID which you'll see if you browse through regedit to makle the changes manually (IIRC)

EDIT: Forgot the second picture, duh!

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Yup, my mouse is already in the controller thats in MSI mode, thanks for helping me c0dy identify that. My keyboard and headset are also on that same usb controller and changing what port they are plugged into makes no difference. (Apart from the front usb ports of the case but I don't want the cable dangling around from the front) xP
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Simply not true. It depends on the drivers. If they support MSI, then it'll work.

I have no issues with either of mine in MSI-Mode.

ASUS Xonar Essence STX and Creative X-Fi



Even works together with VoiceMeeter Banana.

I can guarantee you that your STX is not in MSI mode, as using the MSI mode utility like you show or setting the registry settings for MSI has no effect on Xonar codes. Check the Resources by connection in Device Manager if you don't believe me and you will find that your STX is still in legacy IRQ mode and not MSI. I suspect the same for your Creative, but I don't have a Creative card to confirm this.
Edited by VolsAndJezuz - 8/12/16 at 4:10pm
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