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post #601 of 799
I just convinced myself to ditch windows 10 for now. It is a pain to reapply all tweaks after a big update or reinstallation (i usually just reinstall instead of updating).

After tweaking win 10 for an hour or so this is the best i could do,




And this is windows 7 after 10 minutes with applied basic tweaks, such as, disabling unused audio devices, services, customizing the windows power plan, unparking my cores and disabling selective suspend. Of course i also disabled windows defender which was a major culprit in increasing the dpc latency and polling precision.





Same system, same tweaks, same mouse (G403). Only difference was going back from Windows 10 to Windows 7.
Edited by James N - 4/20/17 at 1:08pm
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I just convinced myself to ditch windows 10 for now. It is a pain to reapply all tweaks after a big update or reinstallation (i usually just reinstall instead of updating).

After tweaking win 10 for an hour or so this is the best i could do,




And this is windows 7 after 10 minutes with applied basic tweaks, such as, disabling unused audio devices, services, customizing the windows power plan, unparking my cores and disabling selective suspend. Of course i also disabled windows defender which was a major culprit in increasing the dpc latency and polling precision.





Same system, same tweaks, same mouse (G403). Only difference was going back from Windows 10 to Windows 7.

how you got result like this

I can't got result like you frown.gif

post #603 of 799
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I can't got result like you frown.gif
"Data point start" Set that to 200
"Data point end" Set that -500 whatever number is in the box before
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how you got result like this

I can't got result like you frown.gif


Sorry , i totally forgot to respond to you. But NeoReaper already answered your question. Anything above 1.1 or below 0.9 is non optimal and anything within these values is considered ok, ideally you want as little deviation as possible. When you do these tests, make sure that no other programs are open in the background.

If you can't achieve satisfying results then lowering the mouse refresh rate from 1000hz down to 500hz definitely helps, as 500hz is usually much more stable than 1000hz.

Before i did these tweaks 500hz felt much better than 1000hz, now that i optimized my system towards a good polling precision and low dpc latency 1000hz feels perfect.

The Windows 10 one i posted is totally fine and this is just me nitpicking btw.
Edited by James N - 4/21/17 at 3:43am
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Sorry , i totally forgot to respond to you. But NeoReaper already answered your question. Anything above 1.1 or below 0.9 is non optimal and anything within these values is considered ok, ideally you want as little deviation as possible. When you do these tests, make sure that no other programs are open in the background.

If you can't achieve satisfying results then lowering the mouse refresh rate from 1000hz down to 500hz definitely helps, as 500hz is usually much more stable than 1000hz.

Before I did these tweaks 500hz felt much better than 1000hz, now that i optimized my system towards a good polling precision and low dpc latency 1000hz feels perfect.

The Windows 10 one I posted is totally fine and this is just me nitpicking btw.

I think I am bad with software

I try to set "Data point end" = -500 but didn't accept negative value

I do a lot of tips like:

1- set mouse to 500hz

2- disable power saving in bios and windows

3- unpark core

4- disable some IRQ conflicts







5- Disable any integrated motherboard components

6- Update all driver

7- Update Bios

I don't know what I am missing.
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What I mean't by -500 is negate 500 from the number that is already in the max box.
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What I mean't by -500 is negate 500 from the number that is already in the max box.

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Click start log

Make sure to steadily move the mouse in a circle motion. It needs to be fast enough to where you hit USB polling rate, but not too fast, so you don't hit the malfunction speed of your mouse (which shouldn't happen with a decent gaming mouse.)



Then press log stop.



And then use the start and endpoint to exclude the parts where you moved your mouse inconsistent. Keep cutting it till it looks clean enough.





Then this should be the final product. (Of course, results will differ)


Edited by James N - 4/21/17 at 8:00am
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Click start log

Make sure to steadily move the mouse in a circle motion. It needs to be fast enough to where you hit USB polling rate, but not too fast, so you don't hit the malfunction speed of your mouse (which shouldn't happen with a decent gaming mouse.)



Then press log stop.



And then use the start and endpoint to exclude the parts where you moved your mouse inconsistent. Keep cutting it till it looks clean enough.





Then this should be the final product. (Of course, results will differ)




thanks a lot for helping me.
I appreciate that smile.gif
post #610 of 799
looks like the mouse you're using isn't stable at 1khz.

what mouse is that? something old? krait? mx300 / mx500? mx510? mx518? lol
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