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What troubles could those two issues potentially cause?
Ripple is what is going to kill your hardware in the long run.
On ripple, and its effects on overclocking

As for multi rail if you overload a rail OCP is going to kick in and the PSU will turn off.
Single Rail vs. Multi Rail *Explained*
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If you feel uncomfortable with the board I picked out, research other Z97 boards and grab one you feel comfortable buying. The main purpose to getting a Z97 is providing yourself with an upgrade path when i7-4790K owners start parting out their rig for Skylake. Most will probably stick with their Haswell systems, but several will make the jump.

I would buy the video card first since you can pop that into your system now and see an immediate improvement. I would probably grab a Hyper 212 Evo with it and overclock the Q6600. If you're still unsatisfied with your gaming performance; grab the Z97 motherboard, G3258 and DDR3 RAM.
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If you feel uncomfortable with the board I picked out, research other Z97 boards and grab one you feel comfortable buying. The main purpose to getting a Z97 is providing yourself with an upgrade path when i7-4790K owners start parting out their rig for Skylake. Most will probably stick with their Haswell systems, but several will make the jump.

I would buy the video card first since you can pop that into your system now and see an immediate improvement. I would probably grab a Hyper 212 Evo with it and overclock the Q6600. If you're still unsatisfied with your gaming performance; grab the Z97 motherboard, G3258 and DDR3 RAM.

I have an ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro cooler. Is this ok to use?

Also, what are the differences between GTX 960 G1 Gaming, GTX 960 Mini ITX, and GTX 960 WindForce? I wouldn't want the GTX 960 Mini ITX from the looks of it, but what are the differences of GTX 960 G1 Gaming and GTX 960 WindForce? Will I get more from the WindForce in the long run?

Another question, when I install a new motherboard in the future, do I have to format my master HD due to any changes made from the motherboard?

Chances are I'll probably take on the motherboard set, since I heard the particular setup can do fine. Only the RAM seems to be an issue if it's not compatible, and from looking at it, it should be alright.
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The Hyper 212 Evo is a superior cooler. I actually didn't notice you have an aftermarket cooler. If you're satisfied with your current overclock, you don't need to make the swap yet. You will eventually want to upgrade your cooler, though.

I don't know if there's any performance difference among those cards. The Mini ITX version is just a shorter card designed for Mini ITX systems. I think the main difference between the other two is the cooler.

You should not have to format your primary hard drive. I swapped my motherboard two years ago and didn't have any issues. My only concern was Windows detecting a hardware change and wanting to be reactivated. There's utilities that can retrieve your registration key from your registry.

Either upgrade path is fine, I just wanted to offer options. The video card upgrade is fairly straightforward. Just remember to completely remove any traces of your current video card to avoid any complications with the new one.
post #15 of 26
Personally, I'd just get a new GPU, PSU and Windows and then reassess (cause you need those anyways). Like mentioned, overclocking that CPU to 3Ghz or above, will help alot. 3Ghz is easy for that chip. You could pick up an inexpensive aftermarket CPU cooler and maybe shoot for 3.2-3.4Ghz, if your Motherboard can overclock well, at all. With a good board, people have gotten to ~3.6Ghz on air cooling, so you're not pushing it hard, at all.

If you're not going to Overclock that CPU though, dont spend much on a GPU cause the CPU at stock clocks wont push an expensive GPU. I probably wouldn't buy anything better than a GTX960 or its AMD equivalent.

I dont think my Q6700 pushed my 560ti, fully, at stock clocks. I think it took around 3-3.2Ghz to see fairly constant +95% GPU usage. Atleast in games I played.
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Update on my status:

Went ahead and got better parts for a lot of areas... but still need help with two areas, deciding a decent PSU and a decent CPU cooler.

The parts I have:

  • INTEL CORE i7-4790K
  • EVGA NVIDIA GTX 970
  • Ballistix 16GB ram kit (2x8 GB Tactical Tracer DDR3 - 1600)
  • Z97MX GAMING 5 motherboard

I tried the GTX 970 earlier with my obsolete parts, worked perfectly. Of course, I then tried it with these newer parts, and it failed to run by having the fan/LEDs turn on for a split second, and then instantly turn off (tried the paper clip trick, and the results did the same thing, indicating that my PSU is not working anymore).

So... now I'm looking for a newer PSU. Apparently, I heard I should be getting a PSU with 80+ certification (?) and having Haswell support in regards to my CPU. I'm not sure how important it is to have a multi-rail, I heard from others that it should not really matter and that I should be more concerned with the power supply results itself, rather than if it's multi or single railed. What should be a decent PSU I should be looking for, and what should I be cautious of when finding this particular PSU? (From online test, it shows I needed around 400 or so watts to run this setup, but I might play it safe and aim for a 750~800w PSU.

As for the CPU cooler, I'll consider getting the Hyper 212 Evo (as mentioned by chessmyantidrug).
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Update on my status:
So... now I'm looking for a newer PSU. Apparently, I heard I should be getting a PSU with 80+ certification (?) and having Haswell support in regards to my CPU. I'm not sure how important it is to have a multi-rail, I heard from others that it should not really matter and that I should be more concerned with the power supply results itself, rather than if it's multi or single railed. What should be a decent PSU I should be looking for, and what should I be cautious of when finding this particular PSU? (From online test, it shows I needed around 400 or so watts to run this setup, but I might play it safe and aim for a 750~800w PSU.
80 plus has nothing to do with quality in any way what so ever, Haswell support does not matter the least either unless you use sleep mode?
Single or multi rail does not matter either.

Last more then 750 watts is massive overkill unless are going to have 3x GTX 970 cards, 450-550 watts is what you are looking at for one card and 650 watt for two.
You dont need more then that buying more wattage is just waste of money.

The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is an okey cooler but you can get much better if you dont me spending a little bit more.
Edited by shilka - 5/18/15 at 2:41pm
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80 plus has nothing to do with quality in any way what so ever, Haswell support does not matter the least either unless you use sleep mode?
Single or multi rail does not matter either.

Last more then 750 watts is massive overkill unless are going to have 3x GTX 970 cards, 450-550 watts is what you are looking at for one card and 650 watt for two.
You dont need more then that buying more wattage is just waste of money.

The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is an okey cooler but you can get much better if you dont me spending a little bit more.

Interesting about the 80+ insight. Haswell is right, if anything I can just check and disable C6 and C7 over in the bios to be safe.

I know you mentioned 550 is good for one, but would it be safe if I aim for a 650w power supply? I'm worried some parts of the computer that came with this new case may use a bit more (having 5 fans.)
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Interesting about the 80+ insight. Haswell is right, if anything I can just check and disable C6 and C7 over in the bios to be safe.

I know you mentioned 550 is good for one, but would it be safe if I aim for a 650w power supply? I'm worried some parts of the computer that came with this new case may use a bit more (having 5 fans.)
Power draws for the system you are making is not even going to break 300 watt it might not even break 250 watts, so even 550 watts is already overkill and as you said a 400 watt PSU could do it with room to spare.
So no 650 watts is a waste of money and you are actually going to get less/lower efficiency from your PSU at lower loads by buying that much or more wattage.
Its a waste of money to begin with and its a waste of money in the long run unless you are going to upgrade the video card to one or more powerfull cards

As for 80 plus its irrelevant
Why 80 PLUS® is Irrelevant to You When Buying a PSU

Last a fan use something like 5 watts or less so unless you are going to have 25 or more fans they are not going to matter the least, same thing with HDD´s and SSD´s 5 watts or less per drive.
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Would this PSU work out just fine?:

"Cooler Master Elite V2 - 550W Long-Lasting Power Supply with Full Electrical Protection (OVP/UVP/OPP/OCP/SCP)"

Edit: Maybe I should get an Antec EarthWatts Platinum Series EA-550 Platinum 550W ATX12V / EPS12V. Some of the reviews questioned me, like someone saying their GTX 570 would not work well with this PSU.
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