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post #701 of 1390
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Originally Posted by -terabyte- View Post

NVME is a faster version of the "old" SM951 AHCI version. At this point I would simply wait for the 950 Pro though, the SM951 is an OEM SSD while with the new 950 PRO you get 5 years warranty. It is also supposed to heat up less.

Thanks for answering!

I have a 100 euro coupon to a company, and the "old" SM951 128Gb is down to exactly 100 euro now. The NVMe version cost 115 euro, and unfortunately I can't add any money, otherwise I would go a for a pro or a 256Gb version.


I only need it as a boot drive, would it work, on a Asrock X99 Itx board? Would it be fast?


Already got two 850 Evo 500Gb in raid 0 and a single 850 Pro 1Tb - all for storage and games.
post #702 of 1390
Yes it should work fine on any X99 mainboard, both the regular AHCI model you are considering or the NVMe model.
Others recommended the 950 Pro but that only exists in 256GB & 512GB models so no way you will find that for below $100 wink.gif

As for what terabyte said yes the 950 heats up less, but also performs worse compared to the SM951 for that reason, see video here for example:
http://www.techspot.com/news/62580-samsung-ssd-950-pro-m2-performance-preview.html
post #703 of 1390
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Originally Posted by Per Hansson View Post

Yes it should work fine on any X99 mainboard, both the regular AHCI model you are considering or the NVMe model.
Others recommended the 950 Pro but that only exists in 256GB & 512GB models so no way you will find that for below $100 wink.gif

As for what terabyte said yes the 950 heats up less, but also performs worse compared to the SM951 for that reason, see video here for example:
http://www.techspot.com/news/62580-samsung-ssd-950-pro-m2-performance-preview.html


Yeah a 950 would be cool, but not now, maybe in the future.

I have asked the shop if I could get the NVMe version since it looks stronger when talking numbers on the specifications.


Both SM951 are talking 2000mb/s+, very close to the 950's. So to just boot up and run windows 10 wouldn't be much of different anyway, just my thoughts.


How are the SM951 running windows and boot up compared to a regular sata SSD? I guess the four times faster reading gives huge improvement?
post #704 of 1390
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Yeah a 950 would be cool, but not now, maybe in the future.

I have asked the shop if I could get the NVMe version since it looks stronger when talking numbers on the specifications.


Both SM951 are talking 2000mb/s+, very close to the 950's. So to just boot up and run windows 10 wouldn't be much of different anyway, just my thoughts.


How are the SM951 running windows and boot up compared to a regular sata SSD? I guess the four times faster reading gives huge improvement?


In my testing a 128GB Samsung 850 Pro is faster booting than a 256GB NVMe SM951. lol

 

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/intel-750-pcie-ssd-review-400gb/5/

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post #705 of 1390
And here the 950 Pro is slower to boot than the SM951, go figure...

http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed/4
post #706 of 1390
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post


In my testing a 128GB Samsung 850 Pro is faster booting than a 256GB NVMe SM951. lol

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/intel-750-pcie-ssd-review-400gb/5/

Do you think with the full consumer support Samsung is giving with the 950 Pro will this change ?
post #707 of 1390

I think it really depends on the chipset used too. Z170 supports it right out of the box, Z97 and X99 needed a BIOS update to support it I believe?

 

 

Also I have seen very different reviews of the 950 PRO. In a review they claimed that Samsung Magician didn't support it because Samsung still hadn't provided a new version and also a new firmware supposed to fix some things. In another review instead they had a beta of Samsung Magician and the latest firmware and it was certainly performing a bit better. We'll have to wait some more time and see what happens.

post #708 of 1390
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Hahah okay I get you on that one wink.gif
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In my testing a 128GB Samsung 850 Pro is faster booting than a 256GB NVMe SM951. lol

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/intel-750-pcie-ssd-review-400gb/5/

But who care about boottimes anyway with ssd? tongue.gif

My server has boottime in ~60 seconds, but I do not care. It is fast when it is online biggrin.gif
post #709 of 1390
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Originally Posted by -terabyte- View Post

new 950 PRO you get 5 years warranty. It is also supposed to heat up less.

Actually, the 950 does heat up more and even during reading.
But it has a smarter version of thermal throttling.
But in a normal workload, meaning no bechmarks, not copying data just for fun, you won't reach the thermal limit.
Especially with the 128GB model, after Windows is installed, there isnt enough space on the drive to write until thermal throttling.

The SM951 is faster on writes, because it has more dies for simultanoeus access. It is 64Gbit based, so it has twice as much dies than die 950 Pro.
The 950 Pro can read faster becuase of the new VNAND, but VNAND cannot make up for the write penalty of half as much dies on the 256GB model.
The 512GB 950 Pro is almost on par in terms of write speed, but it's not enough to beat the SM951
post #710 of 1390
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Originally Posted by -terabyte- View Post

I think it really depends on the chipset used too. Z170 supports it right out of the box, Z97 and X99 needed a BIOS update to support it I believe?


Also I have seen very different reviews of the 950 PRO. In a review they claimed that Samsung Magician didn't support it because Samsung still hadn't provided a new version and also a new firmware supposed to fix some things. In another review instead they had a beta of Samsung Magician and the latest firmware and it was certainly performing a bit better. We'll have to wait some more time and see what happens.

I've tried to find this info about my Asrock X99 itx board, but I can't find any info, can you?



I will grab a SM951 if I can, otherwise I maybe grab a regular 850 EVO 250Gb (they are really cheap).


Thanks for all help people!
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