EDIT: I would go 250GB for the OS and a game or two that you play the most to cut back on load times. Also strap the better cooler onto the R9 if the temps are hot and nois bothers you. Maybe even and Corair H50 and NZXT G10
Dont bother with a Corsair H100i the Noctua NH-U14S is just as good but its cheaper its more quiet and its way more reliable
If you want an AIO cooler you should look at the Swiftech H220x and H240x.
That's what I was thinking also, another 300mhz or even 500 isnt going to make much difference if youre CPU limited but if you overclocked that graphics card on the G10+H80I and added an SSD then you would see a benefit all around IMO.
I have found a H80i that is sold as ex-display, there is no thermal paste included and the cable connecting the fans directly to the pump is missing. (Can it be bought somewhere seperately?) Apparently they can be connected on seperate power supply cable. Other than that, everything is included.
It's sold for 68$. 1 year warranty. What do you guys think?
Hmm, my opinion is based on the fact that I'm not the greatest fan of CLC's in general. So if it were me I would want to get a new one with all of its warranty intact. It might not happen at all, but if the pump fails while you're gaming or it leaks you will wish you paid the extra for the warranty cover.
Water cooling
Dont bother with the crapp h100i and h80i. I am sadly a h100i with regret lol. I sold my swiftech h220 as I was really desperate for money and it was awesome. But I dont think you can get hold of that for a decent price in sweden
I'd definitely get a SSD.
The HG10 idea isn't bad, it depends on what kind of deal you can get on the cooler though. If you can get a H55 or H60 for real cheap it makes sense; I have a Sapphire 290 OC'd to 1125/1450 stable using a h100i and HG10 combo.
I've been thinking about a Kraken G10 myself very similar idea to the Corsair bracket, I think theyre a very nice performance boost over anything air can do on a GPU from what I've seen and heard without costing near as much as a custom loop. CLC on the CPU is another matter.
Corsair G10 may be easier for you on a 290 as it keeps the reference fan for VRM cooling whereas with the NZXT you may need to get some extra heatsinks, and the NZXT only works with certain models of Corsair CLC's, the ones with the round block. I havent looked into the HG10 very much, so you may need to check that it's ok for VRM heatsinks to be sure.
On a graphics card I believe it's something to do with the die density or maybe direct contact of the GPU itself that allows a 120mm CLC cool it a lot better then it can a CPU even with quiet fans.
Agree with Painkiller I don't think you would necessarily need any more then a H55/H60 didnt think of that before sorry, benefits from going up to a H80i with a thicker rad or even a 240mm rad version are relatively small for the cost it seems, unless you really need those extra few degrees.
SSD and Water cooling the whole rig is what I would do. You would get the best performance jump from doing that. Have you ever experienced a ssd before? My PC starts and shuts off in a matter of seconds. My secondary PC, a old one with a HDD, takes minutes lol
I don't know how close you'd get to 1200+; I like where I'm at because the highest temps I see are 60C and I can run my fans at their lowest setting to maintain those temps.
The HG10 incorporates the stock fan to cool the VRMs; since my model was a Tri X, I chose to use the stock fan off of the heatsink of one of my old Athlons.
I don't know how close you'd get to 1200+; I like where I'm at because the highest temps I see are 60C and I can run my fans at their lowest setting to maintain those temps.
The HG10 incorporates the stock fan to cool the VRMs; since my model was a Tri X, I chose to use the stock fan off of the heatsink of one of my old Athlons.
I agree on that getting to 1200. I can't go past 1100 on my card. Anything over I get random crashes. I am on air so heat plays a big factor for me once things start really warming up.
Maybe I need to play with my settings more. I would use valley benchmark and there was 2 scenes that would always have some issues with anything over 1100. I don't have the same amount of mV+ as you so maybe that made a difference. Once you go SSD you'll never go back. I also hate hot how my PC gets on air. Makes my room really warm and dry. Can't wait to get it on water to keep those temps lower.
Edit: Get the biggest SSD you can afford. I have a 258 and hate how fast it fills up. With how big games are now a days I can only have a few on the main drive at a time.
Please get an SSD... how you don't have one is beyond me! I recommend a MX100 or M500 whichever is cheaper per GB personally I find the 250ishGB capacity models to be adequate for all the programs ect and a few games with room to spare.
Then maybe with the extra I would recommend getting a new H100/i/GTX whatever they are called now
it wont necessarily improve performance by a ton but will be a lot cleaner looking.
My input. SSD will have the largest impact in performance by far.
I recently got an Evo 850 500GB and its awesome. Think it runs $189 right now, so within your $250 budget. Prior i had a 120GB SSD and its just not enough space, 250GB is only going to be enough for OS and maybe 1 or 2 current games (keep in mind you dont want to use 100% of the space). 500GB is enough for me to have OS, a handful of games, Office, adobe CC, and some other productivity programs and still have about 250-300GB free (with my user folder stuff re-assigned to a HDD).
So personally id go 500GB SSD or save up and upgrade platform when you can. SSD price will keep dropping, so it will be cheaper to add an SSD later and a platform update will overcome any potential wall in performance you may be facing now or in the near future.
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