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Want to upgrade cpu to the 9350 can my mobo handle it?

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I have the Asus Crosshair v Formula. Not the z, I want to upgrade to the new fx 9350. Can my board handle it? I have seen a few other articles online with others using the cpu on the crosshair v but I can not find any definitive information on the subject. I am currently still using the 1090T. Been on stock settings for about 2 years now. Stopped overclocking for awhile and man My memory sucks I cant remember my settings lol.
 
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Have a fan blow onto the VRMs. You will probably need to treat the CPU like an overclocked 8350 which means making adjustments in the BIOS like you've been overclocking.
 
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According to the official support list, the motherboard doesn't support it:

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULA/HelpDesk_CPU/

However, the motherboard is high end and *should* be able to run at that speed. The question mark, is whether the BIOS will correctly recognize the apply the correct voltage to the CPU...

A the end, you can do something else. Buy a 8370 or even 8320e/8370e and overclock it to 4.7Ghz. It's the same as having a 9590. The 9590 is a very bad deal economically speaking. It's just a pre-overclocked FX 8xxx. Nothing you can't do on your own and without worrying about motherboard's BIOS support...

The great majority of lower FX8xxx can do 4.7. The 9590 is simply a "guaranteed" speed and more chances that it can reach 5Ghz. But otherwise, you could get just a normal 8350 and overclock it yourself.

EDIT: The BIOS doesn't list the 8370 and "e" versions either. I 'd email ASUS if i were you and ask. Otherwise just get a 8350 and overclock it to 4.7.
 
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Undervolter, that is what I was leaning for myself but I wanted to get more information on the options. I definitely want the best bang for my buck and performance. Its been quite some time since I upgraded my major components on my rig. Will my Thermaltake smart m 850w powersupply be enough for an 8 series fx?
 
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Originally Posted by ussoldier_1984 View Post

Undervolter, that is what I was leaning for myself but I wanted to get more information on the options. I definitely want the best bang for my buck and performance. Its been quite some time since I upgraded my major components on my rig. Will my Thermaltake smart m 850w powersupply be enough for an 8 series fx?
Your power supply has plenty of room for 8-core overclocked and even for more power hungry GPU, no need to worry about that. The FX9xxx are always bad deals. They are intended for people that "can't overclock on their own", because they are tech-unsavvy and can't enter BIOS. Or for people that want more guarantees that can hit 5Ghz. Otherwise, most 8320 and 8350 can hit 4.7Ghz. The "smartest" deal, would be to get 8320. But if you want 4.7 at all costs, the 8350 is probably more "secure". The 8320 should do 4.5Ghz even for a mediocre chip.

The newest chips (8370, 8320e, 8370e and the rest of 95w 8-cores) are usually able to overclock at lower voltage. But for the "e" there might be problem to go reliably over 4.5Ghz. The 8370 should be more guaranteed to do that. But again, you 'd have to email ASUS and ask about BIOS support for these.

Otherwise, like i said, 8320 is the "smartest deal", with a certain risk about whether you ll achieve 4.7Ghz, 8350 should be able to achieve 4.7, unless you get a very unlucky chip and your BIOS supports them certainly.

I wouldn't buy 9xxx under any circumstances. It's just wasted money for those that can't hit F2/DEL to enter BIOS and raise a multiplier and a VCore and run some stress tests.
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Also will upgrading from a 1090T to a fx 8350 be worth the money for performance and better oc capabilities?
Look, in applications that use up to 6 cores and don't use new instructions, a 1090T core at 4Ghz, is roughly equivalent to an FX core of 4.4Ghz. You will see an improvement, but now like "wow!". Where you will definitely notice improvement, is in applications that use newer instructions that only the FX support (like AVX) and in applications that can load all 8 cores (you will get something like 25% certain gain in things like x264 or folding@home and such stuff). Games also tend to benefit more than what i described, since they appear using more modern instructions.

I also have a 1090T and went first to FX6300 and then to FX8320. I was always at stock. The big difference i saw it with the 8320, when i did x264 encoding. My regret is the 6300, but i bought it for the reduced TDP, so at the end it's ok.

1090T--> 8350 won't be a huge step in ordinary tasks, but if you encounter an application that can use all 8 cores, you will definitely notice a big difference.

To get an idea of relative core strength, see this comparison at stock speeds:

1090 at 3.2 vs 8320 at 3.5:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/328/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8320_vs_AMD_Phenom_II_X6_1090T.html

^ As you can see, the performance gap goes to 20%+ in cases where the benchmark is multithreaded, so the extra 2 cores, count roughly as 2 enitre additional Phenom cores.
 
#13 ·
After the research I have done and the input from fellow peers I think the 8350 black edition is my best bet. I know I have good cooling for an OC I can imagine that the corsair h105 can handle all the cooling I need for a high oc. Thank you everyone for the input! and if anyone has more input I will appreciate it.
 
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So then in your opinion should I just re-overclock back to my stable 4.0 on my 1090t and there wont be a noticeable difference I used to use folding but mainly now my computer is used for certain games, I.E. battlefield 4 SWTOR and basic school and financial stuff. Or should I use the money for an upgrade on my graphics card. I have a diamond 5870. Please be honest, thanks!!!
 
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Originally Posted by ussoldier_1984 View Post

So then in your opinion should I just re-overclock back to my stable 4.0 on my 1090t and there wont be a noticeable difference I used to use folding but mainly now my computer is used for certain games, I.E. battlefield 4 SWTOR and basic school and financial stuff. Or should I use the money for an upgrade on my graphics card. I have a diamond 5870. Please be honest, thanks!!!
I am no gamer, so if you want a more positive reply, wait for a gamer...

Folding, would benefit at least 25%+ from the CPU upgrade, because it uses all cores.
Battlefield 4 can also use 8 cores, so you will see a boost there too. In games that use up to 6 cores, you will see a boost, but of less degree, mainly because of the higher clock and possible use of newer instructions (FX at 4.7Ghz will be faster than 1090T at 4Ghz , even more so, if the game uses new instructions).

On the other hand, upgrading your GPU could also be a viable option...

I mean, the 1090T at 4Ghz, isn't a bad CPU even today. And if you have to choose between upgrading the CPU or the GPU, i really don't know, because i am not knowledgeable enough about how games behave with the 2 different options. I mean, i can't tell you which would benefit you more.

Don't worry the forum is full of gamers, someone will know by heart which upgrade options gives you more boost.
 
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#17 ·
If we can get Agent Smith in here, he'd certainly be the best person to ask. Intuitively, based on what I know about AMD CPU's and GPU's, I'd tell you that your best bet for improved gaming performance would be to retain the services of your 4 GHz Thuban and give it this $210 R9 280X to play with: http://www.amazon.com/XFX-RADEON-1000MHz-Graphics-R9-280X-TDFD/dp/B00FSC5N66%3FSubscriptionId%3D16330PR1NAHTNCZP5602%26tag%3Dpriwat-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00FSC5N66. If you were willing to buy used, you can even score an R9 290 in the $200 price range: http://www.overclock.net/t/1533788/40x-amd-reference-r9-290s-xfx-sapphire-and-asus/0_100. That's a very reputable seller on the OCN marketplace selling the 290 at $190 a pop.

A 1090T at 4 GHz is still a very good CPU. You can make a very strong argument that it's a better CPU to have now than it was four years ago when it came out, because there are many more applications that can use its six cores. And in many cases, those six full K10.5 cores with full FPU's are superior to the four module/eight-core architecture of the K15h series. Here's an example:



Note how the FX-8350 at 4.03 GHz barely beats a 1035T at 3.71, even though the 8350 has two more executions cores and more than 300 MHz of clockspeed on the Thuban. Give the Thuban eight cores and 300 more MHz, and it would beat the ever-living crap out of the Vishera. This is just one older test, and it doesn't take into account the advanced instruction set that K15h has, or some of its other benefits, but then again, most games don't care about such things, either. That's why a castrated Pentium G3258 with two cores, no HT, and no AES or AVX can be such a beast on year-or-two old games when overclocked.
 
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Originally Posted by ussoldier_1984 View Post

Undervolter, that is what I was leaning for myself but I wanted to get more information on the options. I definitely want the best bang for my buck and performance. Its been quite some time since I upgraded my major components on my rig. Will my Thermaltake smart m 850w powersupply be enough for an 8 series fx?
850w power supply is more than enough for fx-9###
 
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