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#1 ·
Dear fellow OCN peeps.

(NOTE: I know the existence of laptop coolers - but my laptop shouldn't have this temperature even without pushing GPU)

I bought this laptop some years ago, and i wanted to see if could solve or help my overheating issue - and i thought you guys would be able to help me out.

Specs:
HP Pavillion dv6 Notebook PC
AMD A8-3530MX APU with Radeon HD Graphics 1.90 GHz.
8GB RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6620G (GPU Clock 444 MHz - Memory 667 MHz - Memory Size: 512 MB DDR3)
AMD Radeon HD 7690M (GPU Clock 600 MHz - Memory 800 MHz - Memory Size: 1024 MB DDR3)

I just formated my laptop a few hours ago, and installed a lot of the stuff while these pictures was taken, but that wouldn't make my GPU go to that temperature as seen here:
AMD Radeon HD 6620G



AMD Radeon HD 7690M



When i bought this laptop some years ago, i bought it when D3 just came out, and it ran that game just fine, with around +50 fps, and same regards world of warcraft for example. Anyhow, years went by, and last night i wanted to try out some D3(Diablo 3) and it crashed(shut down pc) 10-15mins in, because of what i think is overheating. I guess.

I am now thinking if you guys have any good suggestions to solve this issue, or just a small improvement. Perhaps unscrew the back of my laptop and use some aircompressed air to remove dust & dirt - if so any tips?

Another question i've got, is that i noticed that i got two GPU's as listed above - and i do run with CrossFire activated. How come the 2nd GPU (Radeon HD 7690M) doesnt run ? - And btw. it seems like that is the strongest GPU, clock/memory wise? Or am i wrong here.

Anyway, i really hope you guys can help me. I do know i could get a laptop cooler, but still, my laptop shouldnt have 70-80 degree celcius upon installing a few programs and being on a "good" surface (a table + liftet in the bag of the laptop)

Best regards,
Katulen
 
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#2 ·
The 6620G seems to be the IGP, so that would explain the high temp combined with thermal shutdown (on the CPU).

You can't run SLI/Crossfire with two different processors.

Also, the 7690M (dedicated GPU) is disabled, you have to enable it. I'm not sure how though.

I assume you got my latest PM, you could just answer it here since it's about this anyway.

EDIT: Oh, and be careful with compressed air. It can cause a static discharge.
 
#3 ·
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Originally Posted by JKuhn View Post

The 6620G seems to be the IGP, so that would explain the high temp combined with thermal shutdown (on the CPU).

You can't run SLI/Crossfire with two different processors.

Also, the 7690M (dedicated GPU) is disabled, you have to enable it. I'm not sure how though.

I assume you got my latest PM, you could just answer it here since it's about this anyway.

EDIT: Oh, and be careful with compressed air. It can cause a static discharge.
It just doesn't make any sense that my laptop would automaticly use the IGP (the worse one) when it has a dedicated one in ?
And i guess i gotta figure out how to enable that, because it seems stronger,,

And why do i have crossfire on my settings if i dont have the hardware to support it ?

And yeah, you should know me alrdy .. Im mr. careful. But i would like to open the back, i just need another screwdriver.. Don't got the matching one
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.. And then i have to buy some more compressed air tho..
Regards to if i have any other way to post in here beside my laptop, i got my iphone.. I guess i can use that
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#4 ·
I'd use the phone then for now. Like I said in a PM, high temps can send your laptop to an early grave.

I'ts possible that your laptop is set up to switch to the IGP when idling to save power, and use the dedicated GPU when gaming. I'm not sure though.

I don't know AMD well, maybe they have some kind of hybrid Crossfire like NVidia had at one point. Genuine Crossfire/Sli needs identical GPUs.

Since the IGP is showing such a high temp when idling, I'd say it must be heat from the CPU since they're on the same chip. That also explains why your laptop turns off. Once the CPU reaches a certain temperature, it trigger a thermal shutdown (instant poweroff) in a last effort to save itself. It can be a faulty cooler like what happend to a late friend's laptop (the heatpipe seperated from the block), it can be dust in the sink, or it can be poor contact between the CPU and the cooler block. I'd say those are your most likely causes.

And if you have to buy a screwdriver, it might also be a good idea to get some good thermal paste from a computer shop. You'll probably need it.
 
#5 ·
Go to HP and download the service manual and take it apart. Clean the fan and everything else as suggested above and while you're there apply new thermal paste everywhere you can. My 3 Hp lappy's ALL run hot! I pulled the mobo's and used my dremel to cut extra cooling slots in the case to add more airflow and it made a huge difference for me. The one with the 7959 gpu gained the most from it but it still gets really hot if I peg out the gpu without using a laptop cooling pad. It's just the way they are designed I suppose. Nowhere near enough airflow in those cramped little cases. .
 
#6 ·
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Originally Posted by JKuhn View Post

I'd use the phone then for now. Like I said in a PM, high temps can send your laptop to an early grave.

I'ts possible that your laptop is set up to switch to the IGP when idling to save power, and use the dedicated GPU when gaming. I'm not sure though.

I don't know AMD well, maybe they have some kind of hybrid Crossfire like NVidia had at one point. Genuine Crossfire/Sli needs identical GPUs.

Since the IGP is showing such a high temp when idling, I'd say it must be heat from the CPU since they're on the same chip. That also explains why your laptop turns off. Once the CPU reaches a certain temperature, it trigger a thermal shutdown (instant poweroff) in a last effort to save itself. It can be a faulty cooler like what happend to a late friend's laptop (the heatpipe seperated from the block), it can be dust in the sink, or it can be poor contact between the CPU and the cooler block. I'd say those are your most likely causes.

And if you have to buy a screwdriver, it might also be a good idea to get some good thermal paste from a computer shop. You'll probably need it.
This is the dedicated gpu when playing a game.


It does run with 0 clock and 27 memory, ***?

So you're saying its actually my CPU overheating and not the GPU?

Anyway.. About the GEL, where do you want me to put that again?
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southernyankey1970 Yeah i think im gonna get the manuel before taking it apart, to be sure i do it correctly.. These laptops are sooo small hehe
 
#7 ·
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Originally Posted by katulen View Post

It just doesn't make any sense that my laptop would automaticly use the IGP (the worse one) when it has a dedicated one in ?
And i guess i gotta figure out how to enable that, because it seems stronger,,

And why do i have crossfire on my settings if i dont have the hardware to support it ?

And yeah, you should know me alrdy .. Im mr. careful. But i would like to open the back, i just need another screwdriver.. Don't got the matching one
frown.gif
.. And then i have to buy some more compressed air tho..
Regards to if i have any other way to post in here beside my laptop, i got my iphone.. I guess i can use that
smile.gif
First, crossfire only works with a "real" GPU and another "real" GPU. The integrated graphics on your AMD A8 APU isn't something you can crossfire with. AMD should be flogged for even calling it a "Radeon xxxx" in the first place, because it's nothing more than a low-powered integrated GPU solution.

HP uses something called "switchable graphics". You need to go into the switchable graphics utility (provided by HP) and manually enable the supplemental GPU for applications that require it. The computer will always default to the internal A8 APU for graphics when possible to conserve battery power. The "real" GPU in your system consumes 3-5x more power than the APU does under full load, and will easily turn battery life from 4-5 hours down to 1-1.5 hours. That's why it doesn't switch automatically.

Greg
 
#8 ·
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Originally Posted by hammong View Post

First, crossfire only works with a "real" GPU and another "real" GPU. The integrated graphics on your AMD A8 APU isn't something you can crossfire with. AMD should be flogged for even calling it a "Radeon xxxx" in the first place, because it's nothing more than a low-powered integrated GPU solution.

HP uses something called "switchable graphics". You need to go into the switchable graphics utility (provided by HP) and manually enable the supplemental GPU for applications that require it. The computer will always default to the internal A8 APU for graphics when possible to conserve battery power. The "real" GPU in your system consumes 3-5x more power than the APU does under full load, and will easily turn battery life from 4-5 hours down to 1-1.5 hours. That's why it doesn't switch automatically.

Greg
Thanks for that, regards to the crossfire thing.

Thanks
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And what you just mentioned with the "switchable graphics", i just realized by a youtube clip. I just did it, and made Diablo 3 run on "high performance card" (the "real" GPU), and GPU-Z is showing this now:


How come it's running 100 mhz core clock, but as you see in the red timeline, its almost at 100% ? It says that its 600 Mhz core clock as you see in my original post.
And the same happens with the memory clock? hmm

** EDIT: I just turned it back to the other GPU (integrated one) because the dedicated one only ran the 100 MHz core clock (as described just above), and that seemed to overheat the dedicated GPU alot. hmm what causes that
 
#9 ·
GPUs, like CPUs, can reduce their clock speed to reduce power consuption when idling. I suspect that's what happened there, since the GPU was idling.

In a laptop the CPU, chipset and GPU all share the same cooler, so if the cooler doesn't work well it'll affect them all.

EDIT: To see your GPU stats under load, install HWInfo64, run it with the sensors open while doing something on your GPU. Then check the min/max/avg clock, temp, etc. The temps probably won't be spot-on, but it'll give you an idea of what's going on.
 
#10 ·
First of all, ULPS is enabled. This is why when you check using GPU-Z, secondary gpus seems inactive (all value zero). Disable ULPS.

I have experience with overheating ATI/AMD mobile GPU. What I did is add a slim copper shim between the gpu & heatsink. This is because the reason why my gpu overheating is poor contact. Everyone that own the same laptop (Dell Studio) also having the same problem. It was design issue (heatsink). Did you open your laptop to see whether this is the case too? Did you try reapply thermal paste? If you not yet, try that. Get yourself Shin-Etsu TIM.
 
#11 ·
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Originally Posted by JKuhn View Post

GPUs, like CPUs, can reduce their clock speed to reduce power consuption when idling. I suspect that's what happened there, since the GPU was idling.

In a laptop the CPU, chipset and GPU all share the same cooler, so if the cooler doesn't work well it'll affect them all.

EDIT: To see your GPU stats under load, install HWInfo64, run it with the sensors open while doing something on your GPU. Then check the min/max/avg clock, temp, etc. The temps probably won't be spot-on, but it'll give you an idea of what's going on.
Well the very last picture shown, where the GPU shows 100 Mhz core clock.. It wasnt really idling - i just swapped diablo 3 to run on that "better" GPU, and it started to run, but only the 100 mhz - which doesnt make any sense? And after 5min gameplay, it was still 100 mhz, and it got hotter and hotter, and therefor i swapped it back to the IGP instead, since it at least runs with +300 mhz and had a bit better decent temp.

HWInfo64 is on my PC and ready to use. So you want me to use HWInfo64, open the sensor tab(withing HWINFO and not GPU-Z?) and then you want me to load a game (d3 fx) in the meantime. I mean put the GPU under work, and not just idling mode?
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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

First of all, ULPS is enabled. This is why when you check using GPU-Z, secondary gpus seems inactive (all value zero). Disable ULPS.

I have experience with overheating ATI/AMD mobile GPU. What I did is add a slim copper shim between the gpu & heatsink. This is because the reason why my gpu overheating is poor contact. Everyone that own the same laptop (Dell Studio) also having the same problem. It was design issue (heatsink). Did you open your laptop to see whether this is the case too? Did you try reapply thermal paste? If you not yet, try that. Get yourself Shin-Etsu TIM.
About that ULPS - what is that and how to disable it?

Regarding the thermal paste, i am about to buy something today.. But i think i have to watch a video how to attach that and where.
Any tips regarding that?
 
#12 ·
On a AMD laptop, the iGPU can act by itself to save power. Just like if you have a intel based laptop. You have the ability to switch between the low power usage iGPU or the more power heavy dGPU.

You probably need to redo your thermal paste and clean out the heatsink/fan. Should fix the overheating problem.

GPU-Z sometimes has problems reading the clocks of a dGPU on those hybrid AMD laptops. So that may be the reason for not getting the correct clock info.
 
#13 ·
You will definitely want to replace either the thermal paste or pad(s) that are used in the laptop. Either they're all dried up or they're not seated properly.
Take the laptop apart and get some good quality thermal paste. That should solve all your issues.
 
#14 ·
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Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

On a AMD laptop, the iGPU can act by itself to save power. Just like if you have a intel based laptop. You have the ability to switch between the low power usage iGPU or the more power heavy dGPU.

You probably need to redo your thermal paste and clean out the heatsink/fan. Should fix the overheating problem.

GPU-Z sometimes has problems reading the clocks of a dGPU on those hybrid AMD laptops. So that may be the reason for not getting the correct clock info.
So we do agree upon that i switch all my games (example) to use the high power dedicated GPU - EVEN tho GPU-z only shows that the dGPU is running at 100 mhz core clock ??

And yeah, i was out right now to get some tools + thermal paste for todays troubleshooting.. But ofc., i slept to late, and the store just closed down in front of me when i got there
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So i got my tools but no paste, so i unfortunately have to wait until monday to get any paste. But i can see alot of you think it will solve all my issues.

I am planning to open up my laptop today, just to have a small look inside regards to dirt & dust. Anything i wanna have extra focus on whenever i get inside it ?
 
#15 ·
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Originally Posted by katulen View Post

So we do agree upon that i switch all my games (example) to use the high power dedicated GPU - EVEN tho GPU-z only shows that the dGPU is running at 100 mhz core clock ??

And yeah, i was out right now to get some tools + thermal paste for todays troubleshooting.. But ofc., i slept to late, and the store just closed down in front of me when i got there
frown.gif
So i got my tools but no paste, so i unfortunately have to wait until monday to get any paste. But i can see alot of you think it will solve all my issues.

I am planning to open up my laptop today, just to have a small look inside regards to dirt & dust. Anything i wanna have extra focus on whenever i get inside it ?
YES!, use the Dedicated GPU to play games while plugged in. The Thermal paste application may still be good on the GPU side, so that would take some heat off the CPU for the moment. Just replace the Thermal paste when you can. Ether buy it online, or at radio shack (I know they sell AS5). Just open up your laptop, some are easier than others. For example on my laptop the back cover pops off and the entire heat sink array is accessible. Just unscrew the heatsink and heat pipes/fan. Remove the entire array and clean it, and put it all back together. For applying the Thermal Paste, just do a rice sized dot in the center of each chip.

Unless you are having low GPU performance on the dGPU side, I doubt it is running at 100mhz while gaming.

Sometimes the stock TIM apply was just bad, and may have been bad for you from the GetGo, but you just now realized it because you probably had your laptop in dGPU mode. My Old Thinkpad T61P had a really bad stock TIM apply, and just bad quality control problem in general. The CPU had a IBM part sticker going half way across the die of the CPU. With a Dry crusty TIM on top of it. Temp difference was massive, the CPU was overheating with intensive programs/games beforehand.
 
#16 ·
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Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

YES!, use the Dedicated GPU to play games while plugged in. The Thermal paste application may still be good on the GPU side, so that would take some heat off the CPU for the moment. Just replace the Thermal paste when you can. Ether buy it online, or at radio shack (I know they sell AS5). Just open up your laptop, some are easier than others. For example on my laptop the back cover pops off and the entire heat sink array is accessible. Just unscrew the heatsink and heat pipes. Remove the entire array and clean it, and put it all back together. For applying the Thermal Paste, just do a rice sized dot in the center of each chip.

Unless you are having low GPU performance on the dGPU side, I doubt it is running at 100mhz while gaming.
Okay, so you actually put the thermal paste directly ontop of the chip? And then just a rice sized on.
I will try take it a part within the next hour.

However, i just used HWInfo64 to check what that is saying, and here is a SS where it is idling, and i will now try to open a game, make the dGPU run it and take a new screen as well - so keep an eye out - ill update very soon.



As you see on the picture, my dGPU is yet again only using 100 mhz core clock & 150 mem core.. All tho now its idling, but the picture i took last night with GPU-z it was running d3, and still same core clock. But yeah look back in 5 min, and i have a new SS rdy.
 
#17 ·
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Originally Posted by katulen View Post

Okay, so you actually put the thermal paste directly ontop of the chip? And then just a rice sized on.
I will try take it a part within the next hour.

However, i just used HWInfo64 to check what that is saying, and here is a SS where it is idling, and i will now try to open a game, make the dGPU run it and take a new screen as well - so keep an eye out - ill update very soon.



As you see on the picture, my dGPU is yet again only using 100 mhz core clock & 150 mem core.. All tho now its idling, but the picture i took last night with GPU-z it was running d3, and still same core clock. But yeah look back in 5 min, and i have a new SS rdy.
Here is a good idea on how to use thermal paste. Just clean the old stuff off, and add new stuf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rn0BqMyXBM

Those are probably idle clocks, not load.

As for the GPU drivers. Are you using the newer ones from the AMD website or the older ones from your manufacture? Might be best to use the AMD ones if you are not already.
 
#18 ·
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Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

Here is a good idea on how to use thermal paste. Just clean the old stuff off, and add new stuf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rn0BqMyXBM

Those are probably idle clocks, not load.

As for the GPU drivers. Are you using the newer ones from the AMD website or the older ones from your manufacture? Might be best to use the AMD ones if you are not already.
Thanks for the video, much appreciated. I will learn a bit before monday then.

Regards the GPU Drivers, i am not that sure tbh. I just formated my laptop yesterday, and reinstalled windows - so i suppose it's the drivers from when i bought it ?? or does windows automaticly update to newest drivers or just take whatever it had when i bought it ? If so i guess i have to update my drivers..

Anyhow, i think you're right with the idle clocks etc.
This is 2 pictures from HWINFO64 and GPU-Z while playing diablo 3 (on dGPU)



As you see in max core clock / mem clock, it hit the 600 core clock and 800 mem clock which is max on my dGPU. However i guess it goes back to idle mode whenever i "Alt-tab-out" of the game ? Because the clock/mem clock goes down to "idle".
The same happens in the GPU-z. You can see whenever i was tabbed into the game it was 100% load (600core clock/800mem clock).

Here is a HWINFO64 SS of my CPU numbers while a game is ON.
 
#19 ·
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Originally Posted by katulen View Post

Thanks for the video, much appreciated. I will learn a bit before monday then.

Regards the GPU Drivers, i am not that sure tbh. I just formated my laptop yesterday, and reinstalled windows - so i suppose it's the drivers from when i bought it ?? or does windows automaticly update to newest drivers or just take whatever it had when i bought it ? If so i guess i have to update my drivers..

Anyhow, i think you're right with the idle clocks etc.
This is 2 pictures from HWINFO64 and GPU-Z while playing diablo 3 (on dGPU)



As you see in max core clock / mem clock, it hit the 600 core clock and 800 mem clock which is max on my dGPU. However i guess it goes back to idle mode whenever i "Alt-tab-out" of the game ? Because the clock/mem clock goes down to "idle".
The same happens in the GPU-z. You can see whenever i was tabbed into the game it was 100% load (600core clock/800mem clock).
I use after burner and it has a graph showing GPU clock speed. Yeah when you alt tab out it goes back down.

If it shows 600 core as MAX, you are fine.

Also do you have Catalyst Control installed? If you do, that means windows installed a working driver. But you can always get the newest versions from AMD. Windows will keep you on a somewhat new driver. But always good to install some manufacture drivers, such as trackpad drivers. Otherwise you may loose functionality.
 
#20 ·
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Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

I use after burner and it has a graph showing GPU clock speed. Yeah when you alt tab out it goes back down.

If it shows 600 core as MAX, you are fine.

Also do you have Catalyst Control installed? If you do, that means windows installed a working driver. But you can always get the newest versions from AMD. Windows will keep you on a somewhat new driver. But always good to install some manufacture drivers, such as trackpad drivers. Otherwise you may loose functionality.
Okay, so now im sure that my dGPU works just fine.. Besides the overheating issue as you see
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.. It's really not suppose to go up around there, wow.
Is there a reason that my dGPU get's hotter than my iGPU ?

No i dont got the ATI/AMD utility program. I just have the standard thingie, where u right click on desktop, and then graphic properties. (see picture below)


So, i should go through Catalyst Control Program or just the AMD website ? What is the best way of doing it.

If you see my post before this one, i've edited it, and thrown in a picture of my CPU while under load - does those numbers look somewhat normal?

Anyhow, after figuring out the best way of updating my GPU drivers, i'll try take my laptop a part to have a look inside regards dirt & dust. Would it be helpful taking pictures and sharing or ?
 
#21 ·
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Originally Posted by katulen View Post

Okay, so now im sure that my dGPU works just fine.. Besides the overheating issue as you see
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.. It's really not suppose to go up around there, wow.
Is there a reason that my dGPU get's hotter than my iGPU ?

No i dont got the ATI/AMD utility program. I just have the standard thingie, where u right click on desktop, and then graphic properties. (see picture below)


So, i should go through Catalyst Control Program or just the AMD website ? What is the best way of doing it.

If you see my post before this one, i've edited it, and thrown in a picture of my CPU while under load - does those numbers look somewhat normal?

Anyhow, after figuring out the best way of updating my GPU drivers, i'll try take my laptop a part to have a look inside regards dirt & dust. Would it be helpful taking pictures and sharing or ?
Oh no what you have is fine.

They just call what you have something other than Catalyst Control, but seems to be the same thing. Or atleast AMD drivers are installed.

Though checking the AMD website for newer drivers is never a bad idea.

As for dGPU heat, it is a bigger GPU so should put out more heat. Applying better Thermal Paste may help it a little too.

Yeah CPU temps are not that bad when not using the iGPU.
 
#22 ·
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Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

Oh no what you have is fine.

They just call what you have something other than Catalyst Control, but seems to be the same thing. Or atleast AMD drivers are installed.

Though checking the AMD website for newer drivers is never a bad idea.

As for dGPU heat, it is a bigger GPU so should put out more heat. Applying better Thermal Paste may help it a little too.

Yeah CPU temps are not that bad when not using the iGPU.
I just checked some info in HWINFO64 regards driver, check this picture:


It says the same thing for both GPU's. Does that mean that the driver is from that date? :S

Yeah i will have to do that with the thermal paste.

But if i got "two" gpu's - an iGP and a dGP. Are they located next to eachother (hardware wised) ?
 
#23 ·
I just got your PMs, I was out for music lessons.

Anyway, it looks like that issue was solved.

I'd download the latest driver directly from AMD ( I generally don't trust those driver updater stuff or download sites), I suspect that may be the date when the driver was compiled (so slightly before release).
 
#24 ·
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Originally Posted by JKuhn View Post

I just got your PMs, I was out for music lessons.

Anyway, it looks like that issue was solved.

I'd download the latest driver directly from AMD ( I generally don't trust those driver updater stuff or download sites), I suspect that may be the date when the driver was compiled (so slightly before release).
Slightly before release - i mean we are in 2015 .. so i suppose there must be some newer drivers out there?
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Anyhow, im about to download & install AMD Catalyst Omega to see if there should be any newer drivers for me.
 
#25 ·
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Originally Posted by katulen View Post

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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

First of all, ULPS is enabled. This is why when you check using GPU-Z, secondary gpus seems inactive (all value zero). Disable ULPS.

I have experience with overheating ATI/AMD mobile GPU. What I did is add a slim copper shim between the gpu & heatsink. This is because the reason why my gpu overheating is poor contact. Everyone that own the same laptop (Dell Studio) also having the same problem. It was design issue (heatsink). Did you open your laptop to see whether this is the case too? Did you try reapply thermal paste? If you not yet, try that. Get yourself Shin-Etsu TIM.

About that ULPS - what is that and how to disable it?

Regarding the thermal paste, i am about to buy something today.. But i think i have to watch a video how to attach that and where.
Any tips regarding that?
ULPS put secondary gpus at low power state when idling to reduce power consumption. Sometime it can affect performance. It also causing the GPU-Z to read wrong info of the card. Better turn it off though. You can disable it using MSI AB, in settings.
 
#26 ·
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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

ULPS put secondary gpus at low power state when idling to reduce power consumption. Sometime it can affect performance. It also causing the GPU-Z to read wrong info of the card. Better turn it off though. You can disable it using MSI AB, in settings.
Okay thanks. I got MSI AB now, and i go settings -> Disable ULPS -> OK -> save profile -> and when i go into settings again it is unchecked again -.-


Am i doing something wrong?

Anyhow, regards to the drivers. I downloaded the Catalyst omega manager, and search for driver updates, and it said i was "Up-To-Date", so i guess drivers are good.
 
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