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[BIT-TECH] Razer launches BlackWidow Tournament Edition Chroma

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Gaming peripherals maker Razer has announced a tenkeyless variant of its BlackWidow Chroma, dubbed the BlackWidow Tournament Edition Chroma and retaining its multi-coloured backlighting system.
for those who like razer...
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My full Chroma is solid.
 
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Can someone explain to me why those RGB products are so expensive?
 
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Can someone explain to me why those RGB products are so expensive?
Because they can. LEDs are more expensive and you need software + controller so all adds up to extra $40.
 
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Also Razer.
Also Tournament Edition.
Also new.
Also Razer.

......

Their mouse pads are nice..... When they're on sale....
 
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So the switches themselves are Cherry made right? Not the Kaihl-Razer ones? I have a Razer Tourn. Ed. right now and some of the keys double-register keystrokes sometimes. very annoying when it happens.
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No more Cherry for Razer.
 
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I believe the Corsair K series are among the few with genuine cherry keys. The cost is so much higher because there is an STM32 processor inside the keyboard that requires a lot of programming to drive to many LED's. Even if they are all addressable which I'm sure they are you still use a lot out output for the processor. Then there is the cost of a RGB LED which has it's own chip that allows it to be addressable and it has to be low enough power so a USB port or two can power all 108+ LED's.

The Corsair RGB is a fantastic keyboard. It's darn near perfect once you put little rubber o-rings under each key. My friend has a chroma and really like it too!
 
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Originally Posted by Ganf View Post

Also Razer.
Also Tournament Edition.
Also new.
Also Razer.

......

Their mouse pads are nice..... When they're on sale....
Right.
Because corsair keyboard cost less. Oh wait... maybe not.
Or its because other mechanical keyboards are much much cheaper... or maybe not.

The keyboard in your sig cost 115$. There are several versions of razor keyboards which are fully mechanical and cost much much less. The basic tournament edition cost 70$.
Actually, the only ones which really cost more than your das keyboard, are the ones with lighting on them.
If you buy a das mechanical keyboard with lighting, you have to pay more. Sometimes more than the razor keyboard.

So why do you have a das keyboard?
 
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Originally Posted by Exidous View Post

I believe the Corsair K series are among the few with genuine cherry keys. The cost is so much higher because there is an STM32 processor inside the keyboard that requires a lot of programming to drive to many LED's. Even if they are all addressable which I'm sure they are you still use a lot out output for the processor. Then there is the cost of a RGB LED which has it's own chip that allows it to be addressable and it has to be low enough power so a USB port or two can power all 108+ LED's.

The Corsair RGB is a fantastic keyboard. It's darn near perfect once you put little rubber o-rings under each key. My friend has a chroma and really like it too!
Yeah but what I don't understand is that the microcontroller in those Corsair keyboards are just batched chips programmed by machines right? So the programming part shouldn't drive the cost that much up. Maybe the price of the chip and wiring(The individual LED wiring is a pain, I tried it once and failed) etc will be high I can understand that. But the Razer ones, they don't use the same chips and components right? And you can do less RGB tweaking on the Razer ones.
And the build quality isn't that spectacular too.

Right now the Razer ones are more expensive than the Corsair ones.
Anyone think the prices might come down anytime soon?
 
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The chips arrive from STM in a bin and are programmed once the keyboard is together. That's a guess only from my own experience with the chips in other devices.

I just meant the initial creation of the firmware and gui. Which corsair's is not easy to use.

I don't disagree that it's quite gimmicky BUT a lit keyboard is not and I can choose any color I want. :)
 
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Right.
Because corsair keyboard cost less. Oh wait... maybe not.
Or its because other mechanical keyboards are much much cheaper... or maybe not.

The keyboard in your sig cost 115$. There are several versions of razor keyboards which are fully mechanical and cost much much less. The basic tournament edition cost 70$.
Actually, the only ones which really cost more than your das keyboard, are the ones with lighting on them.
If you buy a das mechanical keyboard with lighting, you have to pay more. Sometimes more than the razor keyboard.

So why do you have a das keyboard?
Because it feels, types and looks like a solid piece of tech instead of a chintzy piece of plastic made for photographing.

Because I only paid $80. Yay for holiday sales.
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Because it came with all 108 O-rings pre-applied and makes half the noise of any other Cherry red board without them, thanks to a solid build that doesn't echo or reverberate the keystrokes.

I could've paid $50-60 more for this keyboard and been happy. The offerings from Razer would have to be 50% off and sold by a third party so I don't get stabbed with their ridiculous shipping rates.
 
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Originally Posted by Exidous View Post

The chips arrive from STM in a bin and are programmed once the keyboard is together. That's a guess only from my own experience with the chips in other devices.

I just meant the initial creation of the firmware and gui. Which corsair's is not easy to use.
Aaha, ok, yeah I heard the one Corsair uses is a pain.
I guessed that we may had found a cheaper solution by now. Even the K70(non RGB) is pretty expensive for a keyboard. But the individual LED's on the keys are not cheap to drive yes.
 
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Meh Razer, not saying they make crap products, but I still don't get excited about anything they have ever made
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#23 ·
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Originally Posted by Ganf View Post

Because it feels, types and looks like a solid piece of tech instead of a chintzy piece of plastic made for photographing.

Because I only paid $80. Yay for holiday sales.
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Because it came with all 108 O-rings pre-applied and makes half the noise of any other Cherry red board without them, thanks to a solid build that doesn't echo or reverberate the keystrokes.

I could've paid $50-60 more for this keyboard and been happy. The offerings from Razer would have to be 50% off and sold by a third party so I don't get stabbed with their ridiculous shipping rates.
During holidays and black friday you could buy razor products for even lower than 80$ from newegg or amazon or other sites.. Also from experience, the razor blackwidow keyboards are just as good quality and do not have "echo" or issues with them. Most of those are pre-judged than actual happening.
If that is your excuse, I'm sorry, but it shows that nothing you say is based on actual facts. And shows me that the "hate" toward razor is like people who hate apple for their products without ever testing them, or hate microsoft because... nothing, or hate google because "omg they must be taking over the world" or hate their school because they don't like to learn.
 
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Not bad-looking, I actually enjoy Razer's aesthetics sometimes. But my last keyboard from Razer ever will be my current 2013 Blackwidow Ultimate (with Cherry MX Blue switches) simply because their new Kailh-made switches suck, in my opinion (actuation point feels off). Cherry MX Blue or bust, I'm picky.
 
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Wasn't aware that RGB was possible on non-Cherry keyboards.
RGB LEDs for keyboard switches were available long before Cherry made their RGB switches... only thing that wasn't available were the keyboard's internal chips and software that can support or create the 16 million color combinations... in fact I think, Corsair even though they were the "first" to use Cherry RGB switches - their Cherry RGB keyboards internal chip and software can only do 512 colors and not the advertised 16 million colors.
 
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