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I'm so glad this thread lead me to Barrow... I'm actually going to be able to buy the fittings that I want instead of the bare minimal.

I'm all for keeping products/work here in the good ol' USA, but when a fitting costs $15-- I'm going with the Chinese "knockoff"

Funny thing is, they're made by the same people that makes Bitspower. I'm sure they just paid them a decent chunk of change, or even paid Bitspower to allow them to be made with the same molds/mill specs. It's probably not the same quality metal(brass?) as Bitspower, but it's a fitting for a low pressure water loop. Just don't cross thread or over tighten, and I really don't see how anything can go wrong.
post #602 of 608
FYI. That is a myth and Bitspower has stated so.

They are a knock off brand like Oakes. (A Chinese knock off of Oakley)


Say what you want. If you choose to use then. Good for you. But stop trying to delude your selves that "it is the same company" (pst that's why bitspower will NOT sell to a distributor that sells barrow)

As for me i would rather pay for innovation then carbon copies
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FYI. That is a myth and Bitspower has stated so.

They are a knock off brand like Oakes. (A Chinese knock off of Oakley)


Say what you want. If you choose to use then. Good for you. But stop trying to delude your selves that "it is the same company" (pst that's why bitspower will NOT sell to a distributor that sells barrow)

As for me i would rather pay for innovation then carbon copies

There's nothing innovative about Bitspower fittings... They're just basic designs that's been around forever. Their 90* fittings are literally an elbo with threads...
post #604 of 608
If I go into a PC component shop and have to open up anything to see there is a difference then one of them is a fake of the original.

So that said, Tt knew that when they offered the cases they did and they won't be seeing a dime of my money. thumb.gif

I don't wish to rehash the issue to death. An please for the love of all that's holy do not PM me to let me know how misguided I am. I'm not and there is nothing anyone can say otherwise to change my opinions on such matters.

If you care to do a walk about on ModDIY's website you will see exactly how many products Barrows has straight ripped off. I counted 3 before I closed the page in disgust. Cause one is tolerable since it could happen to anybody. 2 is pushing it. 3 or more and that's crossing the line big time in my eyes. rolleyes.gif

As for Barrows ripping off BP? There is a difference in size. But NO water cooling rookie will know there is a difference if they purchase them on the web. There simply is zero way to compare the two without walking through Google Images. thumb.gif

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As for Barrows ripping off BP? There is a difference in size. But NO water cooling rookie will know there is a difference if they purchase them on the web. There simply is zero way to compare the two without walking through Google Images. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

lol... kinda funny that you'd say that because I'm purchasing all my parts for my first build on Monday(maybe today if I can deposit this check...) Most people judge by the name and reputation, and everyone I've seen says the Barrow fittings are great and no leaks.

Also, they're nothing like the BP fittings now... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_HQqe50ZxY (got it from http://www.overclock.net/t/1493830/barrow-fittings/480#post_25363197)

I couldn't find anything else that they're selling other than fittings that looks like something else. Which clearly aren't knockoffs any more. Can you show me some stuff that they're copying?
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As for Barrows ripping off BP? There is a difference in size. But NO water cooling rookie will know there is a difference if they purchase them on the web. There simply is zero way to compare the two without walking through Google Images. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

lol... kinda funny that you'd say that because I'm purchasing all my parts for my first build on Monday(maybe today if I can deposit this check...) Most people judge by the name and reputation, and everyone I've seen says the Barrow fittings are great and no leaks.

Also, they're nothing like the BP fittings now... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_HQqe50ZxY (got it from http://www.overclock.net/t/1493830/barrow-fittings/480#post_25363197)

I couldn't find anything else that they're selling other than fittings that looks like something else. Which clearly aren't knockoffs any more. Can you show me some stuff that they're copying?

Oh man I can't believe I forgot all about that video, TheRawView is the da bomb! This also reminded me I pronounce "Barrow" completely different than everyone else I guess, haha, I pronounce it like "Borrow", no clue why. Maybe it's because I didn't have to "borrow" a loan to buy the fittings, lol. OT I know, sorry.
 
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Anyone who turns a a dry rotary fitting in their hands without lubrication, and has minimal exposure to the product they're reviewing as to that as their contrast?

Well I can't say I put much stock into their review.

I agree with his premise that BP needs to do something about their logo. Minimize them or something along those lines. But I don't have enough of a problem with the logo to stop using them. Some people care too much about logos. That goes both ways. As long as their quality remains consistent, I will keep using BP fittings. thumb.gif

And it's still BORROW, because they borrowed the design that made them profit and they've invested that profit in their 3rd revision. Big whoopie. They got the dual o-ring design from someone else. So now they've incorporated it into their BP clones and made them slightly different. That's fine. I won't be buying them.

It's BP, Monsoon or EK for my builds. Not necessarily in that order. thumb.gif

MODDYI or MODDIY. Can never remember exactly how it goes. But I already stated that Borrows has a few knockoffs there. I'm sure that you will see them if you check out the site. mellowsmiley.gif

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Anyone who turns a a dry rotary fitting in their hands without lubrication, and has minimal exposure to the product they're reviewing as to that as their contrast?

Well I can't say I put much stock into their review.

I agree with his premise that BP needs to do something about their logo. Minimize them or something along those lines. But I don't have enough of a problem with the logo to stop using them. Some people care too much about logos. That goes both ways. As long as their quality remains consistent, I will keep using BP fittings. thumb.gif

And it's still BORROW, because they borrowed the design that made them profit and they've invested that profit in their 3rd revision. Big whoopie. They got the dual o-ring design from someone else. So now they've incorporated it into their BP clones and made them slightly different. That's fine. I won't be buying them.

It's BP, Monsoon or EK for my builds. Not necessarily in that order. thumb.gif

MODDYI or MODDIY. Can never remember exactly how it goes. But I already stated that Borrows has a few knockoffs there. I'm sure that you will see them if you check out the site. mellowsmiley.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

MODDIY. An easy way to remember is DIY is for Do It Yourself. Do Yourself It is...well...just wrong. Do Yourself In would be fatal. wink.gif

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