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Hi guys.

So recently I decided to get a NAS after yet again losing data and having to re-download it etc. I have done research and decided to go with a DYI solution. One because I like playing with computers and 2 it offers more flexibility for future upgrades without having to lay down hundreds of dollars for a 4 or 6 bay ready to go NAS.

The main purpose of using this is to back up downloads like drivers, backed up steam games, saved games (I have lost saves even with steam cloud) and movies/music. Acting as a central hub for my media. I am unsure of how much grunt I need but being able too stream movies (no crazy bit-rate) and music would be great. Extra's things that require more grunt like transcoding will never be used. Simple file storage at acceptable speeds and streaming one music/movie file to a single user.

This is the build I came up with

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/qGdCcf

The PSU I already have but would look too get a 350W or 450W in the future, the HHDS are also there just cut down the initial cost but plan to expand to something like 3/4TB WD reds in the future, I can hold up to 8 3.5 HDDS with that case and motherboard. I can always add another 4GB of ram if needed too. Software wise I am unsure of the which one to choose, but, am aware of the choices I have. The case is largish but is cheap, looks decent and has decent fan options for keeping things cool if needed. I am not on a strict budget but I am trying to meet my needs and that is it.

What do you guys think?
Edited by orcinhell - 5/2/15 at 9:23pm
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How much storage space do you need?

If you are just going to use 2 drives, you will only have 1TB of usable space if you want redundancy (RAID1 or mirror).
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I have a bunch of old desktops that have been re-purposed as file-servers that pretty much do what you require.

At the lowest-end is an old HP DC7600 CMT, Pentium-4 3.2GHz, 4GB RAM, but it's loaded with a SSD boot drive, 3x3TB WD RED stand-alone SATA drives, add-in SIL3132-based hostRAID card with 2x3TB RAID-1 and 2x4TB RAID-1; so that's what, 16TB of effective storage on a Pentium-4? rolleyes.gif

Streams 1080p over gigabit and 802.11n (5Ghz) just fine.
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Hi guys.

So recently I decided to get a NAS after yet again losing data and having to re-download it etc. I have done research and decided to go with a DYI solution. One because I like playing with computers and 2 it offers more flexibility for future upgrades without having to lay down hundreds of dollars for a 4 or 6 bay ready to go NAS.

The main purpose of using this is to back up downloads like drivers, backed up steam games, saved games (I have lost saves even with steam cloud) and movies/music. Acting as a central hub for my media. I am unsure of how much grunt I need but being able too stream movies (no crazy bit-rate) and music would be great. Extra's things that require more grunt like transcoding will never be used. Simple file storage at acceptable speeds and streaming one music/movie file to a single user.

This is the build I came up with

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/qGdCcf

The PSU I already have but would look too get a 350W or 450W in the future, the HHDS are also there just cut down the initial cost but plan to expand to something like 3/4TB WD reds in the future, I can hold up to 8 3.5 HDDS with that case and motherboard. I can always add another 4GB of ram if needed too. Software wise I am unsure of the which one to choose, but, am aware of the choices I have. The case is largish but is cheap, looks decent and has decent fan options for keeping things cool if needed. I am not on a strict budget but I am trying to meet my needs and that is it.

What do you guys think?

One thing you may want to keep in mind is that a NAS\file server such as this is not a backup solution. You mentioned that you are doing this because you got tired of losing data; all this is doing is moving the point of failure from one machine to another.
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One thing you may want to keep in mind is that a NAS\file server such as this is not a backup solution. You mentioned that you are doing this because you got tired of losing data; all this is doing is moving the point of failure from one machine to another.

While this is technically true if set up right it will greatly reduce the chance of losing any data. A file server with raid 1 drives would be significantly better than keeping data on his main PC.
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While this is technically true if set up right it will greatly reduce the chance of losing any data. A file server with raid 1 drives would be significantly better than keeping data on his main PC.

A RAID array allows for redundancy (up time) in case of a drive (or more depending on the array) failure. So in terms of you reducing your chances of losing data from a drive failure, that is correct. However you're still putting your data on a single point of failure. A single component failure (Motherboard, PSU, etc.) could fry the entire array. So it is always best practice to have your data on AT LEAST 2 different devices. I personally believe 3 (with one location being off-site) is the way to go if the data is irreplaceable.

OP, if you do go with a RAID array make sure it's RAID 1 or RAID10. One should never go with RAID5/6 with drives of 1TB or larger.
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Redundancy - keep running in case of hardware failure
Backup - relatively quickly accessible copy of recent or real-time data
Archive - copy of data stored long-term. May not be quickly accessible or recent.
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OP, if you do go with a RAID array make sure it's RAID 1 or RAID10. One should never go with RAID5/6 with drives of 1TB or larger.

I would have to disagree with you on this. While RAID 5 is not recommended, RAID 6 and it's software counterparts like ZFS RAIDZ2 and Storage Spaces Double Parity are still viable esp for a home NAS. Unless if the OP is concerned more about fast write performance than storage space, I would definitely say to go RAID 6 over RAID 10.
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I would have to disagree with you on this. While RAID 5 is not recommended, RAID 6 and it's software counterparts like ZFS RAIDZ2 and Storage Spaces Double Parity are still viable esp for a home NAS. Unless if the OP is concerned more about fast write performance than storage space, I would definitely say to go RAID 6 over RAID 10.

You're right, I shouldn't have completely written off RAID6 for the OP. However it's not something I'd ever consider personally because of the write hit, not to mention the length it takes to rebuild a RAID6 array.
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I would have to disagree with you on this. While RAID 5 is not recommended, RAID 6 and it's software counterparts like ZFS RAIDZ2 and Storage Spaces Double Parity are still viable esp for a home NAS. Unless if the OP is concerned more about fast write performance than storage space, I would definitely say to go RAID 6 over RAID 10.

For a home setup of less than 5 drives, I argue say single-disk parity is enough...... assuming the cost of another HDD is used towards another backup solution (i.e. consumer cloud).
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