Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › GTA 5 Is FX 8350 bottlenecking my GTX 970??
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

GTA 5 Is FX 8350 bottlenecking my GTX 970??

post #1 of 40
Thread Starter 
My PC has a FX 8350 @ 4GHZ (no overclock),8GB 1600MHZ RAM along with a factory overclocked Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming and on GTA 5 with the base game settings maxed out at 1080p with the distance,population etc and the advanced game settings I have set high res shadows,long shadows to on but MSAA off and FXAA on and the extra distance rendering to 50% and MY FPS does drop to 36 at certain times of the day yet I am seeing people with i7 4770s pull 10-15 fps higher than me


I downloaded MSI Afterburner to monitor usage and I drove up a steep incline and looked down and my FPS drops to 40 and my GPU usage became 65% and fluctuating lower.But when I drive nromally FPS goes over 75 and GPU usage reaches 90+ %

Also another funny thing is that when I increase the extended distance scaling in the advanced graphics option my Graphic card usage actually decreases and my FPS drops.When I lower this setting my FPS increases and my GPU usage along with it

My avg GPU usage is around 60-70% and rarely does it go to 90% plus

Whats the problem here????
Edited by DarkRadeon7000 - 5/12/15 at 11:55am
post #2 of 40
10 fps difference between a 8350 and an I7 sounds about right. Overclock your cpu and see if you can get some gains.thumb.gif
post #3 of 40
You want a Intel CPU for GTA V. I never drop below 55 fps.
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AMD Radeon R9 16GB DDR3-2400MHz  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AMD Radeon R9 16GB DDR3-2400MHz  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 40
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cysquatch View Post

10 fps difference between a 8350 and an I7 sounds about right. Overclock your cpu and see if you can get some gains.thumb.gif

Before I overclock a quick question.In crysis 3 in the jungle level where there is a lot of grass my fps drops to 40 while my GPU usage is 70% while all of my fx 8350 cores are at 89% usage.Is my CPU holding it back there too?
post #5 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkRadeon7000 View Post

Before I overclock a quick question.In crysis 3 in the jungle level where there is a lot of grass my fps drops to 40 while my GPU usage is 70% while all of my fx 8350 cores are at 89% usage.Is my CPU holding it back there too?

Sounds like it to me, Give the overclock a shot, you can always bring it back down to stock clocks if that doesnt fix the problem.

Here is a great guide for getting started overclocking with the 8350 http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

enjoy thumb.gif
post #6 of 40
FX's need to be overclocked or use dx12 weirdsmiley.gif

The grass levels in Crysis 3 stress the FPUs like crazy doing all the physics calculations for the individual blades. When my H80 cooler was dying, my CPU started to overheat in the Welcome to the Jungle level. I've honestly never seen a video game murder a CPU like Crysis 3.
AMD Box
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8320E @ 4.6 GHz +0.356250v offset Asus Sabertooth 990FX Rev1 eVGA GTX 970 SC ACX2.0 Patriot Viper Xtreme 2x4 GB 1600LL 8-9-8-24 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 EVO WD Black 1 TB 32MB cache FALS WD Blue 1 TB 7200rpm EZEX Corsair H80i 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 x64 HP LP2475w Logitech Illuminated Corsair TX750  
CaseMouseAudio
You don't want to know Logitech G9x Creative Sound Blaster Z 
  hide details  
Reply
AMD Box
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8320E @ 4.6 GHz +0.356250v offset Asus Sabertooth 990FX Rev1 eVGA GTX 970 SC ACX2.0 Patriot Viper Xtreme 2x4 GB 1600LL 8-9-8-24 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 EVO WD Black 1 TB 32MB cache FALS WD Blue 1 TB 7200rpm EZEX Corsair H80i 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 x64 HP LP2475w Logitech Illuminated Corsair TX750  
CaseMouseAudio
You don't want to know Logitech G9x Creative Sound Blaster Z 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 40
Overclocking CPU needed to reduce bottleneck. smile.gif
post #8 of 40
If you lower your game resolution and your FPS are steady then it's your CPU. Let me ask you something. Does your mouse feel sluggish?
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 970 between 4 - 4.4GHz Gigabyte UD7 Rev 2.0 EVGA GTX 1070 FE 2000MHz CL8.8.8.24 1T tRFC 88 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 128Gb OCZ VertexLE 100Gb Megahalems  Windows 10 Pro 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VG248QE Corsair K70  EVGA Supernova T2 1000W Lian Li PC-A20 
MouseAudio
Sidewinder MX5 Creative Zx 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 970 between 4 - 4.4GHz Gigabyte UD7 Rev 2.0 EVGA GTX 1070 FE 2000MHz CL8.8.8.24 1T tRFC 88 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 128Gb OCZ VertexLE 100Gb Megahalems  Windows 10 Pro 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VG248QE Corsair K70  EVGA Supernova T2 1000W Lian Li PC-A20 
MouseAudio
Sidewinder MX5 Creative Zx 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 40
You can also check CPU usage from MSI Afterburner. Make GPU and CPU usage appear in the overlay so you can check the usages in real time while playing. They should pretty much always be at ~90% usage for "perfect balance" tongue.gif

There's no safe way to just say, but your CPU could possible be the bottleneck. Have you tried overclocking it further? Stock vs 4,4Ghz on my 4690k made a huge difference in Battlefield 4 as an example.
 
Study Laptop
(9 items)
 
 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5 (4. Gen) 4210U / 1.7 GHz NVIDIA GeForce 840M - 2 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600Mhz 8GB SSHD 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Yes great 10mm coolers everywhere at max speed Windows 8 15,6" 
Keyboard
The Lenovo one 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Intel] i5 2500k 4.5Ghz @ 1.35V [ASUS] Z77 TUF [Gainward] GTX 670 [Corsair] Vengeance 2x4GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
[Samsung] 830 SSD 128GB [Seagate] Barracuda® 1TB [XSPC] Raystorm CPU Block Aerocool 200mm White Case Fan 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
[EK] 1/4" Fittings [EK] DDC X-Res CSQ Top/Res combo [Laing] DDC-3 10W Pump [XSPC] Razor Block + Backplate 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
[XSPC] 1/4" White Tubing [HW Labs] GTS 360 Lite Rad [Corsair] 3x SP120 Quiet Edition Rad Fans [Corsair] 1x AF120 Quiet Edition Case Fan 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
[Windows] 8 64-bit [Philips] 27E LSB [Corsair] Vengeance K90 [OCZ] 600W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
[Corsair] 600t SE [Corsair] M90 [Cooler Master] Storm XL Mousepad [Beyerdynamic] DT990 Pro 250Ohm 
AudioOther
[Fiio] E7 [Phobya] Touch 6 Fan Controller 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Study Laptop
(9 items)
 
 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5 (4. Gen) 4210U / 1.7 GHz NVIDIA GeForce 840M - 2 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600Mhz 8GB SSHD 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Yes great 10mm coolers everywhere at max speed Windows 8 15,6" 
Keyboard
The Lenovo one 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Intel] i5 2500k 4.5Ghz @ 1.35V [ASUS] Z77 TUF [Gainward] GTX 670 [Corsair] Vengeance 2x4GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
[Samsung] 830 SSD 128GB [Seagate] Barracuda® 1TB [XSPC] Raystorm CPU Block Aerocool 200mm White Case Fan 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
[EK] 1/4" Fittings [EK] DDC X-Res CSQ Top/Res combo [Laing] DDC-3 10W Pump [XSPC] Razor Block + Backplate 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
[XSPC] 1/4" White Tubing [HW Labs] GTS 360 Lite Rad [Corsair] 3x SP120 Quiet Edition Rad Fans [Corsair] 1x AF120 Quiet Edition Case Fan 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
[Windows] 8 64-bit [Philips] 27E LSB [Corsair] Vengeance K90 [OCZ] 600W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
[Corsair] 600t SE [Corsair] M90 [Cooler Master] Storm XL Mousepad [Beyerdynamic] DT990 Pro 250Ohm 
AudioOther
[Fiio] E7 [Phobya] Touch 6 Fan Controller 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 40
Hi,
I have a FX 8370@4.9 Ghz and I see no bottleneck in GTAV. Those advanced setting are demanding indeed but the GPU load (R9 290) is always at 98-99%.The drops in fps I saw are in high vegetation areas. As for the Crysys 3 that level butchered every CPU but although the FX has weaker cores it compensate trough number of them and thankfully Crysys 3 distribute the load on as many cores you have. The GPU load decrease indeed but not much, it stays at 85-90% and the frames are reasonable in the 50s. So try to overclock and see if that load increases, if not must be another problem
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: PC Gaming
Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › GTA 5 Is FX 8350 bottlenecking my GTX 970??