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GTA 5 Is FX 8350 bottlenecking my GTX 970??

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#1 ·
My PC has a FX 8350 @ 4GHZ (no overclock),8GB 1600MHZ RAM along with a factory overclocked Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming and on GTA 5 with the base game settings maxed out at 1080p with the distance,population etc and the advanced game settings I have set high res shadows,long shadows to on but MSAA off and FXAA on and the extra distance rendering to 50% and MY FPS does drop to 36 at certain times of the day yet I am seeing people with i7 4770s pull 10-15 fps higher than me

I downloaded MSI Afterburner to monitor usage and I drove up a steep incline and looked down and my FPS drops to 40 and my GPU usage became 65% and fluctuating lower.But when I drive nromally FPS goes over 75 and GPU usage reaches 90+ %

Also another funny thing is that when I increase the extended distance scaling in the advanced graphics option my Graphic card usage actually decreases and my FPS drops.When I lower this setting my FPS increases and my GPU usage along with it

My avg GPU usage is around 60-70% and rarely does it go to 90% plus

Whats the problem here????
 
#3 ·
You want a Intel CPU for GTA V. I never drop below 55 fps.
 
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10 fps difference between a 8350 and an I7 sounds about right. Overclock your cpu and see if you can get some gains.
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Before I overclock a quick question.In crysis 3 in the jungle level where there is a lot of grass my fps drops to 40 while my GPU usage is 70% while all of my fx 8350 cores are at 89% usage.Is my CPU holding it back there too?
 
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Before I overclock a quick question.In crysis 3 in the jungle level where there is a lot of grass my fps drops to 40 while my GPU usage is 70% while all of my fx 8350 cores are at 89% usage.Is my CPU holding it back there too?
Sounds like it to me, Give the overclock a shot, you can always bring it back down to stock clocks if that doesnt fix the problem.

Here is a great guide for getting started overclocking with the 8350 http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

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#6 ·
FX's need to be overclocked or use dx12
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The grass levels in Crysis 3 stress the FPUs like crazy doing all the physics calculations for the individual blades. When my H80 cooler was dying, my CPU started to overheat in the Welcome to the Jungle level. I've honestly never seen a video game murder a CPU like Crysis 3.
 
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#8 ·
If you lower your game resolution and your FPS are steady then it's your CPU. Let me ask you something. Does your mouse feel sluggish?
 
#9 ·
You can also check CPU usage from MSI Afterburner. Make GPU and CPU usage appear in the overlay so you can check the usages in real time while playing. They should pretty much always be at ~90% usage for "perfect balance"
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There's no safe way to just say, but your CPU could possible be the bottleneck. Have you tried overclocking it further? Stock vs 4,4Ghz on my 4690k made a huge difference in Battlefield 4 as an example.
 
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Hi,
I have a FX 8370@4.9 Ghz and I see no bottleneck in GTAV. Those advanced setting are demanding indeed but the GPU load (R9 290) is always at 98-99%.The drops in fps I saw are in high vegetation areas. As for the Crysys 3 that level butchered every CPU but although the FX has weaker cores it compensate trough number of them and thankfully Crysys 3 distribute the load on as many cores you have. The GPU load decrease indeed but not much, it stays at 85-90% and the frames are reasonable in the 50s. So try to overclock and see if that load increases, if not must be another problem
 
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i here crysis 3 isnt very good at using more than 4 cores, if gta 5 is the same thats the problem, you have 4 cores that arnt being used properly, the 8 core amd chips have lots of life in them yet but require overclocking as most games only use 4 cores, i think bf hard line uses 8 cores pritty good, not sure about gta v, from a guy about to drop on a 8320e. good luck oc'ing:)
 
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i here crysis 3 isnt very good at using more than 4 cores, if gta 5 is the same thats the problem, you have 4 cores that arnt being used properly, the 8 core amd chips have lots of life in them yet but require overclocking as most games only use 4 cores, i think bf hard line uses 8 cores pritty good, not sure about gta v, from a guy about to drop on a 8320e. good luck oc'ing:)
You heard wrong. Depending on the level Crysys 3 can load all 8 cores at 80-90%.
 
#16 ·
Could be high VRam usage, this game needs lots of VRam and the more extras you use the more it want it. I use 2x770s with only 2Gb of Vram and can't turn on any extras or the game gets ugly. On the other hand I can put one 290 in the box and it's fine but it has 4Gb of Vram. You're sitting right in the middle with 3Gb which should be enough in most cases but there will be scenes that make it struggle I'm sure and you're going to see frame drops.
 
#20 ·
The CPU is definitely holding you back, but there may be more to it than just that.

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You seem to be pretty close to those benchmarks for the FX 8350. Also, what RAM and motherboard do you have? You may be running into a latency or memory bus bottleneck as well.
 
#21 ·
It's not bottleneck more like CPU bound like sc2 and other unoptimized games. I have a 8350 games and there was rarely any games that shot up all my cores to 100% all the time. BF4, Crysis 3 and Lost Planet 2? yea some really old games had better optimization.
 
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Originally Posted by DarkRadeon7000 View Post

My PC has a FX 8350 @ 4GHZ (no overclock),8GB 1600MHZ RAM along with a factory overclocked Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming and on GTA 5 with the base game settings maxed out at 1080p with the distance,population etc and the advanced game settings I have set high res shadows,long shadows to on but MSAA off and FXAA on and the extra distance rendering to 50% and MY FPS does drop to 36 at certain times of the day yet I am seeing people with i7 4770s pull 10-15 fps higher than me

I downloaded MSI Afterburner to monitor usage and I drove up a steep incline and looked down and my FPS drops to 40 and my GPU usage became 65% and fluctuating lower.But when I drive nromally FPS goes over 75 and GPU usage reaches 90+ %

Also another funny thing is that when I increase the extended distance scaling in the advanced graphics option my Graphic card usage actually decreases and my FPS drops.When I lower this setting my FPS increases and my GPU usage along with it

My avg GPU usage is around 60-70% and rarely does it go to 90% plus

Whats the problem here????
Your problem is the stock 8350, is your ram also set up correctly?
 
#24 ·
Definitely check your RAM timings and frequencies (compare to the manufacturer's specs). I have an 8350 and it didn't wanna play nice with my RAM out of the box, I had to adjust the timings and speed manually. Until I did, my performance was kinda crippled.
 
#25 ·
Hi, i owned a 8350 was overclocked at 4.5ghz, when playing GTA5 with a R290, i would get these stutters randomly , fps would dip down, no matter what settings, so i got a i7 6700k using same card and didnt get them stutters again,

i did search benchmarks and compare gta5 with amd and intel cpu benchmarks using same card, and the amd fps dipping low while intel didnt, so that made my mind up
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since then i now have a 980ti with i7 6700k
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Hi, i owned a 8350 was overclocked at 4.5ghz, when playing GTA5 with a R290, i would get these stutters randomly , fps would dip down, no matter what settings, so i got a i7 6700k using same card and didnt get them stutters again,

i did search benchmarks and compare gta5 with amd and intel cpu benchmarks using same card, and the amd fps dipping low while intel didnt, so that made my mind up
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since then i now have a 980ti with i7 6700k
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4.5 on an 8350 is very mild and if you didn't watch thermals and throttling then it will also make those stutters worse.
 
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