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[GTAV] GTX 970 + i7 3770k abysmal performance [SOLVED]

post #1 of 8
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I recently purchase GTAV through steam after waiting for so long, expectation high, but disappoint when I sat down to play it.

The problem at hand; [all settings are set to low and off, 1920x1680, dx11, full-screen, 60 refresh rate]
- Using MSI Afterburner, my GPU usage hover around 40s while in-game [indoor and outdoor] speeding around in car.
- CPU hover at similar value, rarely hitting critical % as other forums indicate.
- FPS:
60s [indoor]
40s [stand still]
20s [cruising in car @ city area]
50s [cruising in car @ rural area]

I'm unsure what is with this lack of performance for a system that is expected to run this game on high according to the benchmark from site like guru3d. At first my CPU clock was 3.8GHz so after I OCed the FPS obviously increase but that is expected, what I wasn't expecting is that I even need to increase my CPU clock in the first place to brute force the FPS. According to this thread [1] OP clearly show that his GPU has much higher usage than my GPU even though we are using basically the same card. Oddly I must mention that when entering the menu screen, my GPU usage goes up to like 89% and FPS increase to over 150 [wut?]. I have no idea why my graphic decide to go berserk in the menu screen but not during game-play. Another thing that increase my fps for arbitrary reason is turning post fx to ultra, well at-least with that setting on ultra I am getting better fps compare to when it was off. Now I could play the game in 800x600 with 2d graphic-esque and get crazy fps but then what is the point of having gtx 970 when I can't even play it at Very High setting if not High.

I'm just wondering does anyone has similar issue with this game or any game in general. Now I know that GPU usage indicate how hard the card is working but seeing how lack luster the performance it showing I think there is more to it.

[Edited]
I forgot to add that my GPU low usage seem to happen in GTA V only thus far. The last big game that I played is Dying Light where the GPU usage goes up to 80s [all high settings] along side with FPS hanging above 60s.

Important note: I bought this game on May 9th so I do not know the difference in performance prior to the recent patch.
What I tried so far:
Re-installing driver 350.12 using DDU
OCed to 4Ghz [minimal fps increase]
Defrag
Mess with graphic settings including using dx 10
Update: Solved by reformat.
CPU: i7 3770k @ 4GHz
GPU: MSI GTX 970 TwinFrozr
RAM: Corsair Vengence 16GB @ 1600MHz
MB: MSI Z77a - G45
HD: Intel SSD 710 [OS]
HD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB @ 7200rpm [main storage]
Edited by CitricHusk - 5/19/15 at 7:44pm
post #2 of 8
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Update: Well I recently tried to play the game in DX10 and DX10.1, which is a mistake. I don't know how but the game got worse with the stutter, though more like freeze [gpu usage shows 0%], AI vehicles starting to appear floating above the ground and the enviroment disappear entirely. I guess I'm stuck with DX11.

There is not much else to do beside waiting indefinitely for a patch.
post #3 of 8
Check in bios to see if your CPU is throttling disable intel speedstep? I believe its called for intel?
Reinstall Direct x.
Check your temperatures.
Undo all the overclocks that you currently have.
Download Heaven Benchmark test your fps and post your results.
Turn on Vsync in game.
post #4 of 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amin12345 View Post

Check in bios to see if your CPU is throttling disable intel speedstep? I believe its called for intel?
Reinstall Direct x.
Check your temperatures.
Undo all the overclocks that you currently have.
Download Heaven Benchmark test your fps and post your results.
Turn on Vsync in game.
I'll do two benchmarks to see the difference, one will be the current setup the second will be your suggested setup.
post #5 of 8
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The result are in, OC apprently does create the massive fps drop/stutter.

Heaven Benchmark w/ High and Extreme Tesselation, no AA because I don't play with those.
First test with current set up with i7 @ 4ghz:
> FPS = 66.2
> Score = 1669
> Min FPS = 8.7 <--- there was multiple freezes during the benchmarking.
> Max FPS = 121.6

Second test @ stock speed;
> FPS = 72.3
> Score = 1820
> Min FPS = 23.2 <--- no freezes
> Max FPS = 132.6

I even did a third test just to make sure that there was no stuttering, and there wasn't. Afterward, I hop into GTAV and goes for a long drive [30mins] to see if it got fix. Sadly to say, it hasn't but there is a noticibly better improvement in general FPS and lower random freezes. This time around I did not have MSI Afterburner running as that application only makes the stutter more frequent. The suggestion to put on Vsync didn't make any difference in the performance beside capping framerate at 60 but that is pointless since these hiccup happen equally on all ranges of FPS. Is there a possibility that the mini freezes/hiccup is due to slow reading time of the hard drive?
post #6 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by CitricHusk View Post

The result are in, OC apprently does create the massive fps drop/stutter.

Heaven Benchmark w/ High and Extreme Tesselation, no AA because I don't play with those.
First test with current set up with i7 @ 4ghz:
> FPS = 66.2
> Score = 1669
> Min FPS = 8.7 <--- there was multiple freezes during the benchmarking.
> Max FPS = 121.6

Second test @ stock speed;
> FPS = 72.3
> Score = 1820
> Min FPS = 23.2 <--- no freezes
> Max FPS = 132.6

I even did a third test just to make sure that there was no stuttering, and there wasn't. Afterward, I hop into GTAV and goes for a long drive [30mins] to see if it got fix. Sadly to say, it hasn't but there is a noticibly better improvement in general FPS and lower random freezes. This time around I did not have MSI Afterburner running as that application only makes the stutter more frequent. The suggestion to put on Vsync didn't make any difference in the performance beside capping framerate at 60 but that is pointless since these hiccup happen equally on all ranges of FPS. Is there a possibility that the mini freezes/hiccup is due to slow reading time of the hard drive?


That could be a possibility but i doubt its the hard drive, Go in to bios and turn off south bridge (HPET) .

The random FPS drops are because of Vsync. You may think its not but trust me it is.

Go in to Nvidia control panel and set virtual reality pre-renderd frames to (4).


vertical sync off.
triple buffering off.
fxaa on.
mfaa on.
shader cache ON.
texture filtering quality TO high performance.
texture filtering anisotropic sample optimization ON.
texture filtering trilinear optimization ON.
maximum pre-rendered frames TO use the 3d application setting.
multi-display/mixed-gpu acceleration TO single display performance mode.
power management mode TO prefer maximum performance .

now while in-game turn on Vsync and make sure your monitors refresh rate is at 60 not 59 and in full-screen not borderless.
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Just an update: I've set all of those settings you suggested including the one that deal with BIOS but no avail. This freezes is happening in every game, some are worst while other only suffer mini hiccup. Possible drivers issue rather than the game.

I decided to reformat my SSD, wanted to clean out my storage anyway. It appear this there is quite a number of people that share similiar issue with no solution nor advise from NVIDIA. I'll post more after the reformat [Friday night].
Edited by CitricHusk - 5/18/15 at 1:24pm
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
Problem is now fixed. After reformat and installing the latest NVIDIA driver [352.blah] no stuttering insight, in fact everything runs much much better as if my hardware has been unleashed. The bench mark in GTA V min = 68, high = 135 (very high) [my eyes got moist after seeing that]. I suspect there is something wrong with the motherboard drivers from MSI since this time around I only install the barest needed: Lan, USB, Audio. My suggestion to anyone that tries all of the usual fix should reformat.

Thanks amins for the support :]

Summary:
Not hardware
Not driver
Yes softwares
> Suspect MOBO drivers/ultilites drivers
> Unknown which driver(s) exactly
Solution: reformat
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