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post #31 of 86
Is there any concern about the bending radius for either case (A or B) given the wire gauge/thickness? I know that it's a lot of effort, but if the bend radius _is_ a concern, it might be more prudent to look into a custom riser frame to support the riser in a fixed bend, reducing the chance for overworking (strain hardening) the wires or overstressing the joint(s) to the PCIe socket(s) if the riser wires are not supported.
post #32 of 86
Kind of depressing that there are only four votes on the poll.

I'm definitely all for adding the 100 ml to accomodate quieter fans.
post #33 of 86
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Kind of depressing that there are only four votes on the poll.

I'm definitely all for adding the 100 ml to accomodate quieter fans.

Tell me about it. I really hoped for a lot more feedback, and it's quite a bummer maintaining build logs in three different forums and not getting even a comment on a single one of them. You're the first. Well, whatcha gonna do about it?

Not sure whether you understood this correctly, but adding the 0.1L will not enable me to use quieter fans, I can theoretically do that already, but it would allow me to use a riser that gives better exhaust capabilities on the side. Using that riser will disable me from using fans much thicker than the stock fans on the GPU, though.
But yeah, I'm starting to think that I shouldn't care so much about those 2mm of added thickness. I'm still below 5L total so that's fine, and it would give the HDDs a bit more room to vibrate, so maybe that's not too bad either.
The only problem I have with this is that it increases the unused space below the GPU, and I'm not particularly fond of that. I don't want to put an HDD or SSD there, they would die from the heat quite fast, and I already have all the front ports I could want. Guess I'll have to live with it, I'm already utilising space the best I can.
post #34 of 86
You have my feedback! Better late than never, hey?thumb.gif

Do you have any idea of the timeframe before you start the funding campaign?
post #35 of 86
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Is there any concern about the bending radius for either case (A or B) given the wire gauge/thickness? I know that it's a lot of effort, but if the bend radius _is_ a concern, it might be more prudent to look into a custom riser frame to support the riser in a fixed bend, reducing the chance for overworking (strain hardening) the wires or overstressing the joint(s) to the PCIe socket(s) if the riser wires are not supported.

I somehow completely missed your comment, sorry about that.
Not really, the riser is very stiff and keeps the bent position somewhat. I am a little bit concerned about the soldering points on the riser, but LiHeat offers something like an addon that sandwhiches the riser between two plastic parts so the riser can not be bent at the solder points at all.
Bend radius itself is quite sharp.
If there is a concern about too much stress on the wires, I'd rather make a support bracket for the GPU. This would allow to still bend the riser out of the way to remove the GPU from the case easily.

Something that just jumped my mind was the idea of using a BTX riser and the LiHeat riser together, but I'm not sure whether that would actually save space.
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You have my feedback! Better late than never, hey?thumb.gif

Do you have any idea of the timeframe before you start the funding campaign?

Thanks man, really appreciate it!

Sorry, I'm not allowed to talk about something like this on OCN unless I'm an artisan. Google will help you to find threads about this in other forums, though.
post #36 of 86
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I somehow completely missed your comment, sorry about that.

No worries - OCN quarantined my post until they could get a mod to review it, apparently. (I wonder what I've done...)
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Sorry, I'm not allowed to talk about something like this on OCN unless I'm an artisan. Google will help you to find threads about this in other forums, though.
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it's quite a bummer maintaining build logs in three different forums

I've found your thread on SFF-Forum, along with several other SFF "luminaries". thumb.gif

It's actually been quite a chore to keep up with several recent interesting SFF build logs that have each been maintained on several different sites. Between you, Dondan, Aibohphobia, Qinx and the discussion over the new commercial SFF components, I literally have quite a few tabs open in my browser and use up most of my lunch break every day keeping up.

As I'm more interested in your process rather than the finished result (as nifty as it is), I've been staying on the down-low as a lurker rather than offering specific feedback and decreasing the signal-to-noise ratio.
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No worries - OCN quarantined my post until they could get a mod to review it, apparently. (I wonder what I've done...)

I've found your thread on SFF-Forum, along with several other SFF "luminaries". thumb.gif

It's actually been quite a chore to keep up with several recent interesting SFF build logs that have each been maintained on several different sites. Between you, Dondan, Aibohphobia, Qinx and the discussion over the new commercial SFF components, I literally have quite a few tabs open in my browser and use up most of my lunch break every day keeping up.

As I'm more interested in your process rather than the finished result (as nifty as it is), I've been staying on the down-low as a lurker rather than offering specific feedback and decreasing the signal-to-noise ratio.

I think that may be because you made so few posts, so they want to check whether you're actually legit or not.

Yeah that's true, I have a tab stack on both my laptop and my desktop with all three forums open at all times, and it's a PITA to upload all pictures to OCN and Imgur seperately and always resize them, but what are you gonna do? If you want exposure you have to be present on multiple sites.

That's totally fine, but don't hesitate to tell me if you find something that's noteworthy. To be honest, it's better to just get any response than getting no response at all. smile.gif
post #38 of 86
I upload to Imgur and post to the other sites first, then do OCN. If you have Import Images checked then it'll import the pictures automatically.

Edit: To clarify, if you post on another forum first, then copy the post with the
Code:
[IMG]imgur.com/whatevs.jpg[/IMG]
code, and paste it into OCN it'll import the image.
Edited by Aibohphobia - 6/25/15 at 4:10pm
post #39 of 86
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I upload to Imgur and post to the other sites first, then do OCN. If you have Import Images checked then it'll import the pictures automatically.

The problem there is that I want the images to be uploaded in full resolution to OCN, but I have to resize them for [H] and SFN to improve readability. So if I just use the BBCode from those posts, the low-res version will be imported to OCN, so when someone wants to see a larger version of the image posted, they can't.

EDIT: I could probably just remove the "?1" from the end of the URL on OCN, though

Small Update!

After seeing a few more answers on the poll and thinking about it all day, I decided to add the extra 2mm to accommodate the A type riser. Airflow for the GPU should NOT be an issue of any kind anymore.
I also spent hours today going through multiple designs for the HDD brackets, because the previous one actually blocked the entire air intake for the PSU. Whoops. blinksmiley.gif
What I came up with solves multiple issues:



  • The front mount can be removed without interfering with the HDDs now, which makes building a lot easier
  • The HDDs don't protrude over the PSU anymore so they aren't blocking any of its airflow
  • There's no need to put adhesive foam tape on the PSU anymore. The tape will be put on the bracket and on the top panel to somewhat decouple the drives.
  • It is now possible to mount a single HDD in parallel to the PSUs orientation which alleviates all clearance issues with wider cards or CPU sockets close to the PCIe slot.
  • If two HDDs are used, there is now much more flexibility in moving the bracket around, allowing to always use the maximum space available

I think those are very important changes. The only thing that could be criticised is that you generally have to remove the HDD bracket if you want to change the PSU because the former is resting on the latter, but as it's only mounted with two screws and can be removed very easily, I see this as a non-issue.
Not sure whether I want to keep the screws countersunk or not, either. The ones for mounting the HDDs will have to be countersunk for spatial reasons, but the main mounting ones don't really need to, and countersunk M3 screws are quite small, so they won't offer as much stability.

The other thing I spent a lot of time thinking about is the GPU mount. Normally, PC cases have slots that the smaller ends of PCIe brackets slide into for additional stability. But because the GPU mount on my case is bent backwards, I can't just cut such a slot into the sheet.



I could theoretically just leave it like this, as the cards used in this case won't be very heavy anyway, but as this is a highly portable case that will surely be moved around a lot, I'd like to have a sturdy solution here. I thought about a single angled piece that would come through the back of the mount which could contain the slots.
The front panel could also have those slots cut in, but maybe it would look bad having those two holes with silver or even grey steel pieces in it.

Also, I thought a bit about the AMD R9 Nano, and noticed that the reference design is actually just 6" (~153mm) long, which means that it will easily fit inside the Brevis S even though it has its power connector sitting on the front edge.
Edited by iFreilicht - 6/25/15 at 4:19pm
post #40 of 86
I was looking at the Nano as well. buys you just under 1" of cable running space or ventilation behind your GPU, might buy a bit of extra space to work with GPU mounting bracket ideas as well, but I'm not sure that space would be meaningful unless you can find a specific purpose for it; as you say saving space that becomes dead space isn't fulfilling.

Another issue is the price point, a 970 runs ~375 where the Nano is rumored around ~500. I'm not sure the rest of the build would justify it to many users.
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