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what's the likelihood of getting skylake Q2 2015 and not Q3? My laptop is slowly dying and i need an upgrade sooner than later



About 0%. frown.gif I'm in the same boat. My old Sandy Bridge laptop is on its last legs: ~40% battery degradation, optical drive dead, headphone jack in tatters, but I'm holding out on Skylake...by hell or high water, the next laptop will be Skylake.
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Just bought a Haswell laptop rofl...

My IB/fermi one died last week.
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About 0%. frown.gif I'm in the same boat. My old Sandy Bridge laptop is on its last legs: ~40% battery degradation, optical drive dead, headphone jack in tatters, but I'm holding out on Skylake...by hell or high water, the next laptop will be Skylake.

Yeah I'm on sandy bridge witha 560m. Surprised Ive been able to game on it for 4 years without too many issues - but now it takes 20 minutes to turn on and crashes when browsing regularly mad.gif dota and CS still work, though
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the clock speeds for skylake however? not all that plausible for me. from what my intel buddy has been telling me, skylake (and broadwell before it) aren't clocking well, so i doubt any of those chips will come with even a turbo speed of 4ghz.

What did he said exactly?
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Wasn't it announced that Broadwell wasn't primarily mobile focused and Skylake was going to be desktop focused?
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first of all this is WCCF; so this is likely made up just for a laugh in photoshop by some chinese teenager in desperate need for a life, girlfriend and acne cream; which then WCCF snagged for pure click bait


That said the prices of broadwell with iris pro are extremely plausible for me. In fact the article links to an NCIX-US web page with the broadwell i7 listed
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=108946&vpn=BX80658I75775C

$499.99 for the I7, so this part of their story is legit (that's USD) assuming this is the price NCIX plans to sell it at (none of the rest of that page is finished, make of that what you will)

I predicted those prices for broadwell 2 weeks ago; due to Iris Pro being the igpu. Iris pro uses ultra expensive L4 cache to achieve it's nice performance numbers, which in the past has added about $100+ to the price of the cpu it's added to. so seeing the prices for broadwell w/ iris pro are approximately $100+ the standard price for an i5 and i7, i can't say i'm surprised (actually i predicted exactly that)

the clock speeds for skylake however? not all that plausible for me. from what my intel buddy has been telling me, skylake (and broadwell before it) aren't clocking well, so i doubt any of those chips will come with even a turbo speed of 4ghz.

That's not what Guru3d found http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-5775c-broadwel-reach-5-ghz-oc-on-air.html 4.8GHz stable on air and you can be sure Skylake will clock better as it's using a more matured 14nm.
 
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What did he said exactly?

He said that they were having yield problems; management wanted certain baseline clock speeds for their consumer parts, and they weren't able to get many chips off a platter able to meet those speeds. He said it was a very long standing issue with 14nm, and that was why the release was delayed and intel was forced to do the DC refresh.

He said there were similar issues with skylake, and not to expect "much" for overclocking.

Of course i've seen those Chinese pics... so who knows. maybe they will clock well.
 
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Yeah I'm on sandy bridge witha 560m. Surprised Ive been able to game on it for 4 years without too many issues - but now it takes 20 minutes to turn on and crashes when browsing regularly mad.gif dota and CS still work, though
You should also take into consideration the speed at which the latest technologies get into mobile devices compared to being released for desktop.

FYI 4.8GHz running 32M wprime is not close to 24/7 stable stable.
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He said that they were having yield problems; management wanted certain baseline clock speeds for their consumer parts, and they weren't able to get many chips off a platter able to meet those speeds. He said it was a very long standing issue with 14nm, and that was why the release was delayed and intel was forced to do the DC refresh.

He said there were similar issues with skylake, and not to expect "much" for overclocking.
That's quite PITA. If they would keep clock speed at 3.7, and it would be overclockable to 4.1GHz, users might be happy, especially with 6-8 cores. But they went with different speed for K and non K CPUs, and I never understood why they created non K versions and why they allowed K versions to have higher clock. It hurt Intel a lot, because users no expecting high speeds, because non K CPUs had high speeds, and overclockers were jaded by extremely low safe overclock ratio of K CPUs.

The larger problem was: some i7 simply didn't work at theirs 4.4 GHz turbo speed. (especially with stock cooler). Using 3.6 to 4.0 for non K CPUs, and 4.0 to 4.4 for K versions was complete marketing insanity.
If they went with: Not allowing non K version of highest clocked CPU. Keeping highest line with 90K turbo 4.0, 70K turbo 3.9 would not only make a lot of users happier, it would also make CPUs more reliable, and more importantly will allow some headroom when introducing 14 nm chips. Intel had lead large enough to afford this. I wonder what would they do when they would be forced to reduce max clock speed in comparison to previous generation. Overclocked CPUs which were overclocked by manufacturer (no headroom, no durability) and are sold at higher price?
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still not interesting , , ,
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