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Aww man, so that means that if I upgrade to a core i7 4790k from a core i3, I will need to buy another copy of windows 7? and if i overclock the core i7, I will have to buy another one? smh


Im so bummed right now frown.gif

Im planning on buying a core i7 next month. No fair....

but is it the same thing on windows 8 and possibly on windows 10?
No you don't have to buy a new copy. Never had a problem with my license when changing CPU, and certainly never had a problem when overclocking.
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post #52 of 80
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Aww man, so that means that if I upgrade to a core i7 4790k from a core i3, I will need to buy another copy of windows 7? and if i overclock the core i7, I will have to buy another one? smh


Im so bummed right now frown.gif

Im planning on buying a core i7 next month. No fair....

but is it the same thing on windows 8 and possibly on windows 10?

Just invalidates. You can reuse it all you want. It's just a hinderence.
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Get your facts straight before you go and piss on someone, please. They're IMHO doing a very good job here, and Windows 10 is not a "tablet OS put on PC" as it seems many here are thinking. You haven't even tried it, have you, because you say that?

Already games for example work well for me at least. I've been using it on a phone, tablet, 2-in-1, my gaming PC.... the interface is different but familiar on all of them. Even if you're coming from XP you'll know what's where. And if you care about performance and getting the most out of your hardware, you should upgrade to it - there are just TONS of improvements in that sense in 8,8.1 already and 10 has brought a lot more.

For me any overclocking of CPU, RAM, GPU, mobo parts has never caused Windows to think I've changed parts, how come it does that for you? Maybe it's been unstable for the first few seconds like someone said or whaaaat? Only when I actually have gone and changed them, I've had to do the free call and be done with reactivation in about a minute. Easy. Also if you don't wanna type in the key every time you install, use UEFI instead of legacy mode / CSM etc, because the key is stored in UEFI and Windows will look there first to get it. Even easier than calling. UEFI also brings quite a few nice improvements performance-wise too, so I suggest you to check that out. Shortly, for example, for me the boot times improved a lot, system is more stable when overclocking higher (for example RAM OC), and it feels generally snappier, especially this SSD.

Windows stores the hardware info in a hash, so only big hardware changes will trigger the revalidation request. For example adding a new HDD shouldn't do it, nor any OC, but if you change cpu, mobo, boot drive, ram...it might.

Also I find it pretty funny that someone would want to use DX12 on such an old OS as Windows 7. Like hello, the performance increases will be much better if you have the most up-to-date OS. If you're worried about OneDrive, just turn it off, same with Spotlight, Windows Hello, Cortana etc.. services.msc is your friend. Personally I like to keep my settings, files etc. backed up because I've had quite a few times when I need to restore. With the 10TB OneDrive space it's hard to fill it up, and I'm using only about 1TB of it now. Got music, files, some app installation packages, and so on there. Also because I use other Win8.1-10 devices too it's nice to have them synced with all my data. I went through their privacy policies and they seem to be the best in that sense, especially compared to companies like younited, dropbox, google and some others. Sure NSA can ask them to give stuff but they need a warrant for it and most of those are turned down, even. Dunno if they got some backdoors, they probably do, but this gives at least some comfort biggrin.gif anyways company secrets are stored elsewhere.

And yea I'm not a fanboy, I'm just sad that some people keep spreading lies etc. here without any relation to the truth.
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Originally Posted by rudyae86 View Post

Aww man, so that means that if I upgrade to a core i7 4790k from a core i3, I will need to buy another copy of windows 7? and if i overclock the core i7, I will have to buy another one? smh


Im so bummed right now frown.gif

Im planning on buying a core i7 next month. No fair....

but is it the same thing on windows 8 and possibly on windows 10?
No you do NOT need to buy a new copy. Just no. If the change is so big that the hardware hash Windows has stored changes, you only need to revalidate the license. Here's how:
1. Press Windows key + R
2. write "slui 04" without quotation marks
3. Choose your country
4. Call the free number and follow the instructions of the bot on the line, remember to tell the corrrect number of devices using the license, for example if only your pc uses it then it's 1 - tell it by pressing the numpad key on phone.
5. Give your ID from the box that is open
6. When the bot tells you the stuff you need to type, either write it down and write it on the next screen later or go straight to the next screen by pressing the next button and enter the code there
7. You should be set and ready to go! No need to buy a new license to anything smile.gif
Edited by kanttii - 5/17/15 at 10:46pm
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post #54 of 80
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Originally Posted by kanttii View Post

Here's how:
1. Press Windows key + R
2. write "slui 04" without quotation marks
3. Choose your country
4. Call the free number and follow the instructions of the bot on the line, remember to tell the corrrect number of devices using the license, for example if only your pc uses it then it's 1 - tell it by pressing the numpad key on phone.
5. Give your ID from the box that is open
6. When the bot tells you the stuff you need to type, either write it down and write it on the next screen later or go straight to the next screen by pressing the next button and enter the code there
7. You should be set and ready to go! No need to buy a new license to anything smile.gif

Thats exactly what to do if you have a legit Windows License
 
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If microsoft wants to move everyone to windows 10 so desperately I will not upgrade anytime soon.

My windows is just a gaming partition so who cares anyway.
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If microsoft wants to move everyone to windows 10 so desperately I will not upgrade anytime soon.

My windows is just a gaming partition so who cares anyway.

you don't want better gaming performance?
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you don't want better gaming performance?

At what cost? Time has taught me to not trust M$.

I will just wait and see.
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Originally Posted by rudyae86 View Post

Aww man, so that means that if I upgrade to a core i7 4790k from a core i3, I will need to buy another copy of windows 7? and if i overclock the core i7, I will have to buy another one? smh


Im so bummed right now frown.gif

Im planning on buying a core i7 next month. No fair....

but is it the same thing on windows 8 and possibly on windows 10?
No you don't have to buy a new copy. Never had a problem with my license when changing CPU, and certainly never had a problem when overclocking.


It's a crock of you know what. CPU's will downclock while idle, every day in and out. No one is complaining of invalidations. The only feasible way that I could see this happening is if you corrupted your OS by overclocking, but then that would be YOUR fault for corrupting your OS, not the other way around. I'd imagine it would have to be on helluva an oc, one crazy oc indeed. Thus as implied above, don't worry about it.
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Not advocating...

Lots of overclockers can't really afford buying a new license every time it invalidates you because of your overclock. Or for several systems individuals use merely for tinkering.

Incorrect, MS use a points system to determine when a system differs enough from the original system to require a new PC. An overclock will never invalidate your Windows license. The biggest change to MS is a new/different motherboard IIRC.

Either way, everytime I've upgraded my PC and it's invalidated my license (motherboard swaps usually) I've just contacted MS and it's sorted pretty much immediately.

This on the OEM/syetem builder version of Windows by the way. The Retail version is far less strict.
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never had this problem changing nearly every component including motherboard.

My dads laptop did this when he downloaded the graphics drivers as part of the windows updates lol
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