Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › NVIDIA Drivers and Overclocking Software › NVIDIA 3DTV PLAY (not 3D Vision) not activating - Purchased license
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

NVIDIA 3DTV PLAY (not 3D Vision) not activating - Purchased license

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
HELP! I have been searching high and low for an answer and the only thing that I can find so far is to use a hack or someone else's software (TriDef or EDID override .inf.).

I have a compatible display and 3DTV Play has PREVIOUSLY worked on this display and O/S without issue, but I upgraded to GTX 980s and this is the first time I've tried to use 3DTV Play since.

Why can't I activate 3DTV Play?
I am a paid customer, I purchased it from NVIDIA and have a legit key.

I am pretty sure that this is ONLY an activation issue. This is not a display compatibility issue. You can activate this product even when there is no compatible display detected (mine is connected). I know you are limited to activating the software 5 times and I am not sure what constitutes an activation, but if changing drivers counts then yes I am over 5.

Symptoms:
* I get the option for 3D VISION in the NVIDIA Control panel. This is the default that everyone gets.


What I should see is




What has changed since I've used 3DTVPlay (8 months apprx)?

* I am using the same O/S, Win7-64, but since then I've installed all of the new video drivers that have been released. I perform "clean installs" frequently.
* I changed my CPU
* I upgraded my video cards
* I got 2 new monitors

Just today I:
* Removed ALL video drivers, then after that I used DDU in safe mode.
* Re-installed latest 350.12 driver using clean install option
* Installed 3DTVPlay activation from http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-activate.html

The Activation box never appears! mad.gif

When I try to run 3DSERIALIZE.EXE maunally, nothing happens.. I double click and all I get is a quick hourglass.. WTH?!? Running the .exe in compatibility mode didn't help.


I also found this update, and tried it before I used DDU, it didn't help. It also says not to use it with ANY other driver than the one specified, which could be bad wording or taken literally. http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3073/~/nvidia-3dtv-play-update-utility

I am using HDMI
My projector is 3D, HDMI 1.4a compliant.
I have the issue whether my display port monitor is connected or not.
I have rebooted with them disconnected to be sure

GTX 980s are HDMI 2.0, but should be backward compatible right?

I'm stumped as to how to get this activation to execute so I can re-enable 3DTV Play.
Thanks in advance to anyone that can help!
post #2 of 6
Thread Starter 
OK I've got it to work thumb.gif

I wanted to clarify/correct some points above.

Apparently you CAN activate 3DTV Play without having the TV connected but even when activated you will NOT see "3DTV Play" in the NVIDIA control panel. It will ONLY show there when a compatible 3D display is connected. I was expecting it to show there and ready to be enabled.

I also discovered that not every HDMI 1.4a powered splitter is created equal. This was preventing my TV from being detected as 3D (despite audio and everything else working fine). I had forgotten I even had it under the desk frown.gif.

The NVIDIA software could have saved me a TON of time and aggravation (and going off on wild goose chases) if during the installation/when running 3dserialize.exe it simply gave a message "3DTV Play is already activated". I learned this through discovering the above that even though I had thought I 'fully removed all NVIDIA display related software', even using Display Driver Uninstaller in safe mode, my 3DTV Play key was still active and registered on the PC. I simply made the assumption that I needed to re-install 3DTV Play and the wild goose chase began.

Anyway, I figured I would post this in case others ever run into this issue.


PS. GTA V in 3D is really awesome tongue.gif
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
I also wanted to share, that I discovered something a bit accidentally that I ended up keeping.

I have a desk 4K monitor, but sometimes I don't use that and I use my 3D Projector. I use HDMI for uncompressed/lossless 7.1 digital audio. This is connected to my 7.1 receiver which is also connected to my projector. This means that I MUST always use an HDMI connection if I want audio in windows/games.

Since this HDMI connection also passes video (receiver is HDMI 1.4a) I had been using this connection for 3DTV Play. When I use my projector, I unplug my 4K desk monitor (display port). This way the only active display is the HDMI to the projector and 3DTV Play mode is enabled.

Luckily my projector has 2 HDMI ports so I decided to connect my DVI-D port to my projector DIRECTLY using a DVI --> HDMI adapter.

Windows now detects my projector again as a 2nd monitor. smile.gif I can switch to HDMI --> RECEIVER --> PROJECTOR on "HDMI 1 input", or I can switch to DVI-D --> PROJECTOR on "HDMI 2 input". By default my DVI-D was the primary screen.

When I started GTA V in 3D, since my DVI-D connection was the primary monitor, the game ran on this direct connection to the projector (not through my receiver). The results were SO MUCH BETTER using DVI-D for the 3D video source than using HDMI! I noticed that the colors were more vibrant and the biggest thing, despite BOTH connections (DVI-D and HDMI) being capable of running at 60 Hz, the DVI-D refresh was FAR SUPERIOR to the HDMI. I verified by looking at the timing information of my projector that both modes were 60Hz, but visually all I can say is that the DVI-D is way better.

My receiver I guess could be impacting the video signal but it is a high end Yamaha... It is HDMI 1.4a compatible.

It also makes sense that DVI-D might feel smoother because technically it has a lot more bandwidth than HDMI 1.4a.

Your mileage may vary but I hope this may help someone get a better quality 3D experience and that you can run audio from HDMI while running video from DVI-D.

I suppose with GTA V having an "Excellent" 3D Vision rating more and more people will be experimenting. All I can say is WOW smile.gif
post #4 of 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laithan View Post

I also wanted to share, that I discovered something a bit accidentally that I ended up keeping.

I have a desk 4K monitor, but sometimes I don't use that and I use my 3D Projector. I use HDMI for uncompressed/lossless 7.1 digital audio. This is connected to my 7.1 receiver which is also connected to my projector. This means that I MUST always use an HDMI connection if I want audio in windows/games.

Since this HDMI connection also passes video (receiver is HDMI 1.4a) I had been using this connection for 3DTV Play. When I use my projector, I unplug my 4K desk monitor (display port). This way the only active display is the HDMI to the projector and 3DTV Play mode is enabled.

Luckily my projector has 2 HDMI ports so I decided to connect my DVI-D port to my projector DIRECTLY using a DVI --> HDMI adapter.

Windows now detects my projector again as a 2nd monitor. smile.gif I can switch to HDMI --> RECEIVER --> PROJECTOR on "HDMI 1 input", or I can switch to DVI-D --> PROJECTOR on "HDMI 2 input". By default my DVI-D was the primary screen.

When I started GTA V in 3D, since my DVI-D connection was the primary monitor, the game ran on this direct connection to the projector (not through my receiver). The results were SO MUCH BETTER using DVI-D for the 3D video source than using HDMI! I noticed that the colors were more vibrant and the biggest thing, despite BOTH connections (DVI-D and HDMI) being capable of running at 60 Hz, the DVI-D refresh was FAR SUPERIOR to the HDMI. I verified by looking at the timing information of my projector that both modes were 60Hz, but visually all I can say is that the DVI-D is way better.

My receiver I guess could be impacting the video signal but it is a high end Yamaha... It is HDMI 1.4a compatible.

It also makes sense that DVI-D might feel smoother because technically it has a lot more bandwidth than HDMI 1.4a.

Your mileage may vary but I hope this may help someone get a better quality 3D experience and that you can run audio from HDMI while running video from DVI-D.

I suppose with GTA V having an "Excellent" 3D Vision rating more and more people will be experimenting. All I can say is WOW smile.gif

Sorry its a bit confusing, but what you're saying from your experience, GPU > HDMI-Out > Receiver > HDMI-out > Projector/TV with DVI-D converter resulted in better color (when using 3D)? I'm jw because I use a Denon receiver for 5.1 audio when gaming/movies but I never thought it looked bad and I definitely have multiple DVI converters laying around to try this myself.
Gaming Rig
(12 items)
 
  
Reply
Gaming Rig
(12 items)
 
  
Reply
post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 
Yup smile.gif better color and smoother when using DVI-D output with DVI/HDMI adapter (or a cable with DVI/HDMI on each end) vs. My GPU's HDMI output going to my receiver. I even think there is less input lag.

EDIT:
Wow, editing this much later as I realized i misunderstood your question.

NO is the answer to your question.. and sorry I was not clear.
What I meant was:

Connection #1
HDMI --> RECEIVER --> HDMI PROJECTOR

Connection #2
DVI-D --> HDMI PROJECTOR (does not go through receiver)

Connection #2 had a better picture than connection #1.
Edited by Laithan - 12/19/15 at 5:19pm
post #6 of 6
Hi Everyone!

Sharing my experience for anyone who might (have) run into a similar situation - it's Feb 6, 2016:

My (relevant) gear:
Gigabyte GTX 780 Ti - 3GB OC
Monitor 1 - HP2311 gt (low end passive 3D via TriDef Ignition, specifically geared for this monitor - not my target for 3DTV Play).
Monitor 2 - Viewsonic (Run of the mill monitor - no 3D, nothing whatsoever).
Monitor 3 - LG 42LM5800 3D TV (circa 2012)

LG 3D TV Connection topology: 780Ti --> (HDMI) --> Yamaha Rx-V377 Receiver (3D ready / capable) --> (HDMI) --> LG 3D TV

Windows 8.1 64 bit

I tried to set this TV (Monitor 3) up with 3DTV Play - but nVidia control panel would show 3D Vision only - no 3DTV Play. At first, I thought I had to buy the license, and that the 14 day trial was probably the cause. So I went ahead and bought one (another story - I'm based in Pakistan, and couldn't use my credit card, for nVidia has no option of buying from Pakistan. Had to enlist a friend based in the US to buy one for me and forward the mail with the key). Registering the product didn't help - I still didn't see 3DTV Play in my nVidia control panel.

Then I figured I had to set my LG TV as the primary / main display in windows. Once done, firing up the nVidia control panel and going to Stereoscopic 3D, the control panel presented the 3DTV Play instead of 3D Vision.


Some Comparison:
I have played many 3D games, and watched many 3D movies, on this TV. Crysis 2 was interesting. Gears of War 3 was impressive. This time, I tried Dirt 3 and Tomb Raider 2013 (yeah, old games, I know). Have to admit that, while Dirt 3 was nothing to write home about, Tomb Raider 2013 was beyond impressive - best 3D I've seen so far. I'd also like to mention that I tried Tomb Raider 2013 with TriDeg Ignition as well (yesterday only, on the same LG TV, not the HP 3D monitor). IMO, TriDef's output had graphical glitches, such as wrong depth, or 3D objects appearing flat, hanging in the space. 3DTV Play's output was flawless (ok, not flawless maybe, but I didn't see any glitches like those on TriDef). What's even more impressive is that with TriDef, there was a visible / noticeable performance hit, whereas, with 3DTV Play, there was none.

Hope this helps any wandering souls, running into similar issues.

Cheers!

Safyre
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › NVIDIA Drivers and Overclocking Software › NVIDIA 3DTV PLAY (not 3D Vision) not activating - Purchased license