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Hello all. Last weekend I helped my brother in law install a custom loop in his rig. We got everything installed, leak tested, and bled without any issues. When he got his computer home it would not power on at all. Press the power button, power button LED flashes and fans jerk as if trying to start up, then everything cuts out.

This weekend I am helping him troubleshoot. First thing I did was disassemble everything and test on air. Worked fine both in and out of the case. Once we knew it was working on air we reinstalled the loop and tried again. Nothing. Still no power. Same result as before.

The only other thing that has changed between testing on air and reinstalling the loop is the GPU. Since his GTX970 has a waterblock installed and no onboard video, we used my spare cheapo back up GPU to test on air. When going back to water we put the 970 back in. Could the GPU be an issue? The GPU was also run on air in this same rig prior to installing the waterblock.

One thing I did notice is that the mounting screws on the CPU block were extremely tight. I had to really apply a lot of force to get them down far enough to catch the threads. Could the waterblock being too tight cause an issue?

Specs are:
AMD FX4350 with EK Supremacy MX
ASRock 970 Extreme4
Gigabyte Windforce GTX970 with EK block
16GB Crucial Ballistix
Kingwin 600W PSU
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You have something connected to the CPU-fan header, right? I don't think it will turn on without it.
Also, could the backplate be shorting the motherboard?
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Originally Posted by Hattifnatten View Post

You have something connected to the CPU-fan header, right? I don't think it will turn on without it.
Also, could the backplate be shorting the motherboard?
The EK PWM DDC pump is plugged into the CPU header and the backplate is the stock AMD blackplate, which is plastic.

EDIT: The plug on the CPU header is only Tach and PWM wire. The 12V power is coming directly off the PSU
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You have something connected to the CPU-fan header, right? I don't think it will turn on without it.
Also, could the backplate be shorting the motherboard?

It should still boot without anything plugged to the cpu fan header.
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It should still boot without anything plugged to the cpu fan header.
Yes, that too. It would just have an error message indicating nothing was plugged into it and press F1 to continue, unless turned off in the BIOS.

But I'm saying no power at all. Case power LED flashes once as you press the button, then cuts out
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Try another power supply. I am not the psu pro but I do not see kingwin 600w being suggested ever.
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Sounds like it works with the 970 out but not in, correct? If so that's probably the culprite. Could the GPU have been damaged by the waterblock install?
 
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post #8 of 19
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I don't think it's the PSU since it is the same PSU that was powering the system when on air and that we tested again with. And it makes no difference whether GPU power cables are plugged in or not.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

Sounds like it works with the 970 out but not in, correct? If so that's probably the culprite. Could the GPU have been damaged by the waterblock install?
Correct. 970 and CPU block are the only variables. I'm going to try pulling the GPU out and see what happens. It's possible it could have been damaged, but I won't know for sure unless I slap the air cooler back on that and test it

EDIT: Just pulled the GPU out of it's slot and had power to GPU disconnected and still no power. I'm going to try and find some longer screws and replace the EK mounting screws since they are so tight. I'm pretty sure they are 6-32 thread according to the installation manual
Edited by morencyam - 5/17/15 at 10:03am
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Just looking at the back of the motherboard behind the CPU it looks like the motherboard is flexing a little bit. I'm almost certain this is the problem. I'm going to run to Home Depot to get some different screws and rig something else up
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Just looking at the back of the motherboard behind the CPU it looks like the motherboard is flexing a little bit. I'm almost certain this is the problem. I'm going to run to Home Depot to get some different screws and rig something else up

Sweet, you found it, good luck!
 
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