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Actually , It's meant to be a stock vs stock comparison of the cpu's , without the variablity that the turbo function introduces into the mix. I compared the 4790k with all of it's cores locked at it's highest turbo clocking ( 4.4ghz) against Vishera , also locked at the Various turbo clock speeds of the 8 core SKU's.

Where there is information posted for different resolutions, it's simply meant to add to the thread, not to be used as direct comparisons and those are noted in the posts.

If you want to make your own thread using your own method , please do so, always interested in seeing the comparison.

The 780 ti bench marks for the 4790k are still to come, but as for the 290X being in either machine , the numbers are what they are.

If you're going to compare them, you need to have them at the same clock. Ignore the stupid turbo crap and clock them at both 4.5GHz or something reasonable. No one with any sense actually buys a 9590, but if you're going to use a 4.7GHz bench then do the same for the 4790K, because the majority of them will easily hit 4.7GHz.

Again, you need to use the same GPU's at the same clocks. RAM is also a factor, I didn't look to see if you were using the same, or similarly clocked RAM, but you want to make sure that is the same as well.

Also, if you're going to be throwing out different resolutions you need to be doing that for both systems.. not just one of them with a different GPU.

I'm sorry to say but as it stands now, your results are extremely skewed. If you can do those things I will have no qualms with your results, and neither should anyone else.

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Laptop processors should not ever be compared to desktop processors.
You can back that up with some links?
The AMD cpu's are awesomely fun to tinker with and their performance is underrated.
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That certainly is not true.
How can you call the months of work he put into that thread "a waste"? Did you even bother to read through it?

it certainly is true. At any budget the Intel system will perform better for the mass majority of games. There IS a reason to buy AMD at a certain budget today, however. The only reason being you would be running certain multi-threaded workloads that the FX series would be better suited for, and that's only up to a certain price point before Intel becomes better again.

All gpu's used are at stock clock's , the ram is a 4x4 GB set of kingston divided into to identical 2x4 sets and running 2400mhz with very similar primary timings. IF you had actually read the OP in that thread, you would have already known this.
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post #102 of 265
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Lol, no. just no.

It would be no more valid than myself stating I am proof to the contrary. Proof requires evidence, not subjective analysis and reasoning.

You seem like a nice lad how about we go grab some coffee today and i'll prove it!
post #103 of 265
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All gpu's used are at stock clock's , the ram is a 4x4 GB set of kingston divided into to identical 2x4 sets and running 2400mhz with very similar primary timings. IF you had actually read the OP in that thread, you would have already known this.

It doesn't matter.

You were using different GPU's. How hard is that to understand? You placed a 780 Ti in the AMD system and a 290X in the Intel system. The 780 Ti is quite a bit better. Not to mention, you also used a high OC for the FX chip and compared it to the stock 4790K.
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http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128662
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116991

Comes out to be around $320

When he was about to spend $340 on a slower FX 8350 setup


That board isn't worth even that. Who wants a 3+1 phase board with two ram slots?
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That board isn't worth even that. Who wants a 3+1 phase board with two ram slots?

Agreed.. you can spend $30 less and get the same thing. For $80 you should be getting a mid range H97 at worst.
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All gpu's used are at stock clock's , the ram is a 4x4 GB set of kingston divided into to identical 2x4 sets and running 2400mhz with very similar primary timings. IF you had actually read the OP in that thread, you would have already known this.

It doesn't matter.

You were using different GPU's. How hard is that to understand? You placed a 780 Ti in the AMD system and a 290X in the Intel system. The 780 Ti is quite a bit better. Not to mention, you also used a high OC for the FX chip and compared it to the stock 4790K.

I politely invite you to read the OP smile.gif.
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post #107 of 265
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If you're going to compare them, you need to have them at the same clock. Ignore the stupid turbo crap and clock them at both 4.5GHz or something reasonable. No one with any sense actually buys a 9590, but if you're going to use a 4.7GHz bench then do the same for the 4790K, because the majority of them will easily hit 4.7GHz.

Again, you need to use the same GPU's at the same clocks. RAM is also a factor, I didn't look to see if you were using the same, or similarly clocked RAM, but you want to make sure that is the same as well.

Also, if you're going to be throwing out different resolutions you need to be doing that for both systems.. not just one of them with a different GPU.

I


Yo didn't look at his tests very well. That or you need new glasses lol!
post #108 of 265
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So instead it is more accurate to compare CPU's that can OC to the same levels at different clocks. It's also good to compare them with differently performing GPU's and drivers.

Got it. thumb.gif
Please report back after actually reading the thread in question so that you're not spewing complete nonsense.
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No it is fine. This is not AMD we are talking about.

Board will have no problem running the i5 at full load.

You only need a beefier motherboard if going with a unlocked Intel chip. thumb.gif
I kind of doubt that when the power under load for the i5 and the 6300 is a few watts apart after taking the chipset power usage into account. Doubt there is any magic in play making the i5 drawing power from nothing.
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That board isn't worth even that. Who wants a 3+1 phase board with two ram slots?

Well for starters the i5 I picked is a locked i5. And that provides more than enough power for that chip.

Also you only want one stick of memory per channel....

Performance actually goes down when you have two sticks per channel. And it is not like he needs more than 8gb of RAM.....

What is the point of having two empty RAM slots?

I only picked it for the connectivity in the back, as you can get the same for less. But not with 5.1 analog audio out. (I actually linked the cheaper model in my first post in this thread)


If he wants a better mobo, he could spend another 20 bucks and get something better. Would then match what he was about to spend on the weak FX chip he was thinking about buying.

Always these too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128731
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128718
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I politely invite you to read the OP smile.gif.

Not sure what you want me to find..

The same GPU comparisons are not there. I went straight to the actual game comparisons and did not see both systems using the same GPU's.

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