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I wouldn't spring for a 8350 since my $80 8310 overclocks to 4.5ghz (same max stable prime as my 8350) Get a 8300,8310,8320 whichever fx8 is cheapest and get a 970a-ud3p

My FX 8310 ($80) and 970a-ud3p ($75) was $155 and overclocks to 4.5 ghz and can run with locked i5's all day long in games and better in editing

fx8 @ 4.5 vs i5 @ 3.3 both with stock 290s Bot max settings 1680x1050


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Originally Posted by CravinR1 View Post

I wouldn't spring for a 8350 since my $80 8310 overclocks to 4.5ghz (same max stable prime as my 8350) Get a 8300,8310,8320 whichever fx8 is cheapest and get a 970a-ud3p

My FX 8310 ($80) and 970a-ud3p ($75) was $155 and overclocks to 4.5 ghz and can run with locked i5's all day long in games and better in editing




Oh it's you again.

The guy that also compares Intel vs AMD with different GPU's.

those benches were done with a 290 vs a 280x IIRC looks like you changed it to both 290s

Also, your prices are iirelevant because no one can get a new 83xx chip that cheap unless they buy used. You also didn't add in your CPU cooler cost. At the end of the day, it's the same price so they should have the same GPU's.
Edited by iinversion - 5/17/15 at 5:22pm
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Now add the Assassins Creed games, Dying Light, The Evil Within, Dead Rising 3, Skyrim, GTA V, MGS V, Watch Dogs and a plethora of other games that don't use more than 4 cores and add the minimums in as well. On average AMD won't limit you, but it's on a game by game basis. You CANNOT use the blanket statement that an AMD CPU won't limit you in a gaming.

OP, any way to trace down a better cheap 775 board and overclock your current CPU higher? At 3.8-4Ghz it wouldn't be much different than AMD in most games.
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In modern games with a lot of AI the Q9550 is definitely falling behind. But since you're buying mobo, ram and CPU anyways, why not go Intel? It'll only cost a little bit more.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/gtx-970-1-5ghz-and-2500k-vs-q9550-in-70-benchmarks-bonus-i7-860.211898/

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OP congrats on starting a second meaningless flame war thread, can't wait for the next chapter.
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post #116 of 265
The i5 is only the same cost or within $50 if you buy a crap $25 motherboard.

FX 8320 $130 (ridiculous but they drop to $99 about every 2 months)
970a-ud3p 8 phase vrm $75
Hyper 212+ $25 (it does 4.5 as i've proven on 3 different fx8 cpu)

So a AMD FX8 is still around $230


locked i5 $175
crap base board with 2 ram slots and 2 sata slots if you're lucky $40
stock intel hsf
$215

So you can have a locked i5 that will do just as well in games and much worse in multithreaded.

Its the same argument intel fans had over the e8400 vs the q6600. When "2 cores is all you need in games" Now a q6600 + 7950 destroys a e8400 + 290
Edited by CravinR1 - 5/17/15 at 6:35pm
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Some of these answers helped, some were nonsense. Okay,@chrisjames61 Thank you for your help. I also did mention later in the forums that I wanted the upgrade for CPU+MOBO to be ~$400. Here's the story again. I'm getting a new PSU as I have a 7 year old PSU with 22A on the 12v rail. Also, I'm getting a HDD upgrade as my HDD is old and making noise which will bring me around $230 which I don't mind. In the summer I'm going to watercool. Also I'm getting new 2400 MHz ram for the upgrade as my current MOBO only does 2GB per slot which 8 GB and can only run up to 1600 MHz. The reason I want to go AMD is that I don't like Intel because of how they crippled AMD in the past. I buy products that give me value and has a good history which is AMD. Also I want to DEVELOP for AMD since they are lagging behind in their software. I just want to try AMD also because I never owned AMD, it has always been Intel, so I want to give it a go. Also, I would never spend on a cheap motherboard as they are not reliable which is why I'm going for a 990FX killer which is a great MOBO. I see why the Intel i5 is better but I feel like if I OC the FX or develop a mini game and optimize it, I can see how well the FX does. Right now, I'm fixated on the FX 8320 or the 8370E. I do plan to CrossFire but that is when I get Zen and AMD R9 3XX card, if it does come. If not I can either survive with the FX if it can or I will settle with Intel's extreme platform. Right now, I'm getting a second hand upgrade; an upgrade that boots performance but at the same time costs less and I could tinker more with. Which is AMD!!!!!!!! Thank you guys for all your help. Which FX is the best to go with in the 8000 series or above? Also, will the 760 bottleneck like the Q9550 did or not at all or just a little? The Q9550 bottlenecks by 20-50 FPS but I have 4 sticks of ram if that does anything. I also play at 1080p resolution and play at either High/Ultra. I see the 760 with the 8350 and I see a huge boost from my Q9550 but not as much as the i5/i7. But still, AMD seems like a better choice don't you think?

Thanks and sorry for the long reply. lol, I just went outside and I came back and 3-4 more pages of posts. biggrin.gif
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What do you mean by DEVELOP for AMD? You keep repeating this nonsense.
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The i5 is only the same cost or within $50 if you buy a **** $25 motherboard.

FX 8320 $130 (ridiculous but they drop to $99 about every 2 months)
970a-ud3p 8 phase vrm $75
Hyper 212+ $25 (it does 4.5 as i've proven on 3 different fx8 cpu)

So a AMD FX8 is still around $230


locked i5 $175
**** base board with 2 ram slots and 2 sata slots if you're lucky $40
stock intel hsf
$215

So you can have a locked i5 that will do just as well in games and much worse in multithreaded.

Its the same argument intel fans had over the e8400 vs the q6600. When "2 cores is all you need in games" Now a q6600 + 7950 destroys a e8400 + 290

Remember this is Canada

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128718
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116991

Comes out to be $345

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285

Comes out to be $284.
$330 if you get the fx8350 instead.

The Intel i5 will run circles around the FX 8320 even at 5ghz when it comes to most games.

The FX 8350 @ 5ghz still has trouble beating a stock 2500k in most games. Let alone a faster Haswell i5.

Not even a competition. Unless you need multithread performance, don't get the FX CPU.

Quad cores will still remain kings of Video games for a few more years. The FX chips under performs when it comes to gaming. Saving $50 bucks at best is not worth it.


I've Owned Athlon XP, Athlon 64, Athlon x2, Phenom II, and a few other AMD chips. Even have built FX6300 rigs for people in the past.

But I honestly would never own a AMD FX 8 core. They are a waste of money in terms of gaming. I'm a AMD Fan, but even I can admit that this series is meh. Even AMD won't release newer versions of the Bulldozer arch, simply because it sucks.
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You seem like a nice lad how about we go grab some coffee today and i'll prove it!

That would be a rather expensive plane ticket.

Besides I currently own and utilize an m6600, at any given time I am running multiple applications and have had no issues to speak of, and I am very critical of my own machine. The only complaint I could have is it doesnt have a 7970m in it, yet.
    
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