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@emeianoite So what are you going to choose?
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Also, thank you all for the help. Really appreciate it. @miklkit Thank you for that wonderful link, that also helps as well. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by CravinR1 View Post

The fact that fx8 + MB can be had new for $175 frequently which is the cost of a locked i5 alone only reinforces this.

Yeah that's the main thing, times have changed and intel are a rip off atm.

For example in australia the 4690k is a whopping $330 (4790K $469......for quad core cpus it's horrendous pricing, regardless of the exchange rate)

But when I purchased my 3570k they were only $220, and the 8350 was $230 so that was no brainer for me and the games I played.
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I can't believe people are still using passmark to gauge gaming performance. You use games or game engine benchmarks to gauge gaming performance. Just like you'd use render based benchmarks to gauge render performance. Passmark for gaming is about as helpful as looking at spec sheet stats.
Anyone who's doing that, it's a very bad idea. Passmark tries to max out every available resource on a CPU and then generates a performance rating based on that. Even in the single-core test, it maxes out everything it can on one core. It's valid as a broad-based performance benchmark, but gaming is a specific task that only uses a subset of a processor's cores and instruction sets. In nearly all cases, Intel CPU's are stronger in that particular subset than AMD.

We discussed this before on the AMD 860K thread. If you OC an 860K to 4.5 GHz, it delivers Passmark ratings better than an i5-4460. If you actually game on it, it performs more like an i5-2400, which isn't awful, but it's about 15 percent below a 4460. And that's using my 6970. On a newer card with higher performance, I suspect the gap might be a little bigger, not that anyone's likely to be using an R9 290 or a GTX 970 GPU with an 860K.

Just posted this for the information of anyone who isn't familiar with the Passmark benchmark and what it does. If you already know this, carry on. thumb.gif
     
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Look OP...the same people show up in these threads EVERYTIME.

I'm just going to tell you like it is... if you want AMD go AMD. But it is not the right decision from any sort of technical nor price to performance perspective.

Let's look at my history..

My last 5 cpu's for example.... I went from a socket 939 Opteron dual core to a FX-8120 ($200 USD) and I was blown away...having such good luck with AMD back in the day I was happy... Than I realized bulldozer was a failure after doing a lot more research.. so the FX-8350 comes out and I kid you not I ordered it within 10 minutes of it officially going on sale on newegg ($220). The performance bump was again nice, but comparing to Intel yet again it was disappointing.. back in 2012. So time goes by and I get a surprise belated bday gift, a FX-9590.... sweet a 700mhz bump ($400 including amd water cooler which barely kept it in check)

So... $820... in cpu's alone, not including the ~$200 mobo upgraded required for my 9590 and it still performs to this day worse than a slightly overclocked 2500k from 2011.

After being dissapointed yet again that a 4.7ghz/5ghz turbo 8 core (even with 16gb of 2400mhz ddr3 and a oc'ed 290x) was still giving less than ideal frames on a lot of games I just said screw it and bought a 4790k and the performance jump was huge especially for older single threaded games. Even newer games still see a big enough advantage.

Bottom line, I should have just bought intel back in 2011 and I can almost guarantee you I'd still be using it because they aren't much slower than the current intel chips.

A locked i5 can be ran quieter due to less heat output, will use less power and in general for 95% of tasks will perform as fast or faster. Not only that you need a beefy psu and motherboard to get any decent performance out a FX 8 core, and that's just the bottom line.
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Its funny the Intel hive with no experience with AMD come and call them trash. Me and cssorkinman both have high end Intel and amd builds. We both say amd is a good chip and good bargain and perform on par.

My 8350+280x performs better than my i5 4670k+ 290 in most uses. I still stand on my premise that i7 > fx8 >= i5

The fact that fx8 + MB can be had new for $175 frequently which is the cost of a locked i5 alone only reinforces this. Also I did first hand benches with many games at exact settings and the fx8 easily key up with the much more expensive i5 in games

Its hard to take cssorkinman seriously when his debate tactics tend to bowl down to "it feels smoother" despite evidence to the contrary and/or anything that can be quantified.

I enjoyed my 1055T when I had, easiest chip to overclock to 4.0Ghz along with the 4870x2 I had. Only reason I sold it was to get my brother motivated to do something else other than SC2 all the time.

If you want proof of ownership check my seller feedback, sold to an OCN member here on our forums thumb.gif
    
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@Alastair I heard that the FX 8350 bottlenecks and I don't want that since that's what my Q9550 does. So, Does it bottleneck a GTX 760?

Will not bottleneck. My 8150 didn't bottleneck my 760 and now even not my 970.

edit: At 60hz that is, i think if you want to go 144hz monitor you must go Intel. But that probably doesn't matter because a 760 will not give you enough frames. The 970 or 980 are already saturated on recent titles.
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Will not bottleneck. My 8150 didn't bottleneck my 760 and now even not my 970.

The thing is, it depends on the game. Plenty of games felt tons faster on my stock 4790k w/ 290x over my FX-9590 w/ 290x - now that I'm at 4k, 95% of the time of the time I'm gpu bound. However, games such as Skyrim let alone SC2 would still run noticeably worse on the FX-9590 even at 4k.
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Almost anything can run a single gtx 760.
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