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Originally Posted by Agash28 View Post

How much oc would it take to equal an fx to i7 2nd gen or 4th?

2nd gen is 30-35% faster.

So a 4.5GHz FX would have about the same IPC(instructions per clock) as a 3.3GHz 2nd gen i7

4th gen is 50% faster

So a 4.5GHz FX would have about the same IPC(instructions per clock) as a 3GHz 4th gen i7

It is simply math. 4th gen can be up to 100% faster when an application uses AVX2 instructions.
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Originally Posted by SynchronicBoost View Post

I bought an Asus z87-A board for $59 after MIR and a 4690k for $200 and clocked to 4.8 (got lucky on chip). Patience can pay off when the right deal comes along on price. I've also seen 8350 deals for $167, Mobo and proc.

MIR = ? returned items ?

Look I don't have patience to read all these pages but to sum it off, the FX 8000's aren't that bad, especially if you consider the 8320 price/performance ratio

It's just in some poorly multithreaded games the performance is gonna be pitiful, especially the minimum FPS's

Just watch this video please :

And decide.

He says it all and his benchmarks are professional smile.gif.

Look for instance Bioshock infinite, while the AVG FPS aren't that much different, the MIN FPS gap start to increase..
Edited by StrongForce - 5/18/15 at 5:25pm
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I'm pretty sure a Sandy Bridge Celeron or even a lowly Athlon II X2 would have the same experience in the desktop. Opening control panel or bringing up my computer are not exactly things that you need a 5GHz CPU to do quickly and fluidly.

So since all fact goes against you and your FX claims, you decide to come up with some nonsense about how the desktop experience is better despite being a worse CPU.
It's great how you ignored my comment directed at you earlier about gauging CPU performance with completely different GPU's. Not sure how anyone can actually use that guys results as a valid source for comparison.

If you read all of the results, many of them show results with the same gpu.....

Would you care to elaborate on these results from tweak town:




Just some examples if real modern AAA titles showing how close it all is, even at stock....
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Originally Posted by Agent Smith1984 View Post

If you read all of the results, many of them show results with the same gpu.....

Would you care to elaborate on these results from tweak town:




Just some examples if real modern AAA titles showing how close it all is, even at stock....

The synthetics but not the gaming benchmarks.

Half of them are unlabeled and it doesn't even say.

Those are a few games where they are fairly equal performers. There are more games than just those 3 as well where they perform very similarly. It's funny because your game selection is the same as what Cravin did his benches on.

There are many other modern titles where the FX is left in the dust, and I'm sure you know it is more than just a handful..
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I'm pretty sure a Sandy Bridge Celeron or even a lowly Athlon II X2 would have the same experience in the desktop. Opening control panel or bringing up my computer are not exactly things that you need a 5GHz CPU to do quickly and fluidly.

So since all fact goes against you and your FX claims, you decide to come up with some nonsense about how the desktop experience is better despite being a worse CPU.
It's great how you ignored my comment directed at you earlier about gauging CPU performance with completely different GPU's. Not sure how anyone can actually use that guys results as a valid source for comparison.

If you read all of the results, many of them show results with the same gpu.....

Would you care to elaborate on these results:
Quote:
Originally Posted by iinversion View Post

The synthetics but not the gaming benchmarks.

Half of them are unlabeled and it doesn't even say.

Those are a few games where they are fairly equal performers. There are more games than just those 3 as well where they perform very similarly. It's funny because your game selection is the same as what Cravin did his benches on.

There are many other modern titles where the FX is left in the dust, and I'm sure you know it is more than just a handful..

Here's a good one....

6 core intel, versus 9590

tested at 1080P on a 290x AND on a 7990

There is no disputing these results unless tweaktown and extremetech are both completely frauds.....

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/170023-amd-vs-intel-the-ultimate-gaming-showdown-5ghz-fx-9590-vs-i7-4960x/2

EDIT:

I'll be glad to submit a FRAPS log on any game I have in 1080P using any settings on my corssfire 290's.

I guarantee you'll need a decent clocked i5/i7 and 2 overclocked 290/x or 980's to beat the results with an Intel rig.

I've ran all sorts of tests against my brother's 3570k @ 4.8GHz, and his previous 3820 x79 sysem, and the results in AAA titles were within 2-5% on games that clearly favored the intel platforms, and almost identical in everything else.

Please keep in mind, that you are speaking to a big fan of intel's performance chips, but I opted for the AMD setup because of the unbelievable value.
I was able to put that CPU/motherboard money, towards a second gpu, and get additional performance where it really counts the most.
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Originally Posted by Agent Smith1984 View Post

If you read all of the results, many of them show results with the same gpu.....

Would you care to elaborate on these results:
Here's a good one....

6 core intel, versus 9590

tested at 1080P on a 290x AND on a 7990

There is no disputing these results unless tweaktown and extremetech are both completely frauds.....

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/170023-amd-vs-intel-the-ultimate-gaming-showdown-5ghz-fx-9590-vs-i7-4960x/2

After reading the first page of that article, it would appear they compared a stock 9590 to a stock i7-4960X.

So yes, those results all seem in line since the IPC is very similar with that amount of clock difference. The thing is, a a 3570K would have had pretty much the same results as well, stock.
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Still though, those benchmarks are crazy as it makes me want to get the 8320 more and OC it to 4.5 GHz. Also I looked at arma 3 benchmarks.

http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page5.html

Take a look, they are very close!!!! That's crazy. And the link you showed me is crazy. @Agent Smith1984
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Keep in mind they are not showing you the minimums and just the averages. While the averages are 10-15% lower, the minimums can sometimes be just outright awful.
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I can see that but yea.
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