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The only thing 'crap' about FreeSync is the market attention it's received, yet the software support is trailing. Trend appearing, and I think that is what Jason is trying to convey.

Freesync requires AMD cards. That's the only reason needed to reject it.

How many of us replace monitors every time we replace our GPU? Why should I be locked into a GPU brand because I already own a specific monitor?

That's it. That's all there is to it. I shouldn't need an Nvidia card to play gameworks titles. I shouldn't need an AMD card to play LiquidVR titles, I shouldn't need one or the other to use one or the other type of VRR. They don't need to lock us in to their ecosystem to make money off of these products, they're just getting greedy and taking away our flexibility in choosing how we build our PC's in the process.
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i'll just leave this here:
AMD Is Wrong About 'The Witcher 3' And Nvidia's HairWorks

Nice to see an objective article from that guy for once.

Last Gameworks article he supported AMD's stance. Says a lot when a person that supports AMD as often as he does starts asking the hard questions.
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Nice to see an objective article from that guy for once.

Last Gameworks article he supported AMD's stance. Says a lot when a person that supports AMD as often as he does starts asking the hard questions.

He's not being objective though. Tessellated hair != hairworks in 2014. Nowhere has he found any proof that hairworks was integrated in 2014 other than "he seen it, yo."
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Gameworks is a pure marketing scheme and it's not meant to move PC gaming forward but to stack megabux in Nvidias pockets. It routinely causes the games it's implemented on to run worse on competitor hardware and even now we're seeing proof that they are doing it to their own last generation hardware. (that $1000 last gen titan is looking really silly these days)

I dislike the technology because more often then not, it adds little to games while causing problems. I'd be alot happier if developers focused on stabilizing their games instead of implementing gimmicks.

Nobody is going to take you seriously if you don't back that up with something conclusive. If any enthusiast worth their salt cared to to roll back far enough on a 780 GTX they'd disprove that theory in 5 minutes. Kepler has seemingly taken a back seat recently as NVIDIA are focused on Maxwell, much like they were on Tegra. Do I agree with this? No, it's fair that Kepler users should be disgruntled. Am I that much of an idiot that I think NVIDIA are deliberately crippling performance on Kepler cards? No.

Everything in the games industry is there to make money, berating a company for doing so is for la la land. You are suggesting that we go back to not having anything at all beneficial over the consoles in terms of graphic fidelity purely on principle.
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Freesync requires AMD cards. That's the only reason needed to reject it.

How many of us replace monitors every time we replace our GPU? Why should I be locked into a GPU brand because I already own a specific monitor?

That's it. That's all there is to it. I shouldn't need an Nvidia card to play gameworks titles. I shouldn't need an AMD card to play LiquidVR titles, I shouldn't need one or the other to use one or the other type of VRR. They don't need to lock us in to their ecosystem to make money off of these products, they're just getting greedy and taking away our flexibility in choosing how we build our PC's in the process.

I don't think it really applies to FreeSync. FreeSync is just AMD's driver level implementation of the standard they've chosen to push. NVIDIA can't adopt FreeSync, but there is nothing stopping them adopting a variable refresh solution through DP1.2a / DP1.3. I don't really know enough about G-Sync's inner workings to tell you if there is any benefit or loss in that. Only that NVIDIA worked hard in the beginning to iron out a lot of the issues below the 40 frames per second marker when working with what they have on the ASIC route they chose to go with.

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He's also the goober who suggested that AMD needed their own gameworks, as if that wouldn't completely sink them. I've checked his history, he jumps on whatever bandwagon is riding high at the moment and gouges whoever he wants with regurgitated opinions of the enthusiast market.

Fanboyism problably wasn't the right term. Vicarious fanboyism is better.

Oh and as for this, I'm not sure what a goober is, but you need to stop dropping economic buzz words and being so forthright about how you feel about people protecting their investments.
Edited by Silent Scone - 5/22/15 at 6:17am
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Show one succesful case of a company not using propietary software. You speak of these "evils" from a Windows platform, searching for information through a Google or Bing search platform, while playing new releases on DirectX 11, using drivers from AMD or nVidia.

You are a hypocrite, using a soapbox to attack one vendor: nVidia.

You are still confusing proprietary software with proprietary systems. We've been over this before.

And nowhere have I spoken on this topic without being equally critical of AMD for trying to pull the same crap with freesync, or the crap that they're about to try and pull with LiquidVR when VR finally hits the market.

Check yourself, foo. boxing3.gif

Proprietary software:
Proprietary software, non-free software (not to be confused with non-gratis, which is not free of charge), or closed-source software is computer software licensed under exclusive legal right of the copyright holder with the intent that the licensee is given the right to use the software only under certain conditions, and restricted from other uses, such as modification, sharing, studying, redistribution, or reverse engineering.[1][2] Usually the source code of proprietary software is not made available.

Examples of proprietary software include Microsoft Windows, Adobe Flash Player, PS3 OS, iTunes, Adobe Photoshop, Google Earth, Mac OS X, Skype, WinRAR, Java and some versions of Unix.

Your entire argument is based on an illusionary example of proprietary systems, which any system is a foundation of proprietary pieces, in this case software.

So back on to what you keep claiming, what major business success doesn't use proprietary systems or software?

Regarding your specific attack of nVidia, I find you only in GameWorks related threads fueling the flames against nVidia, sprinkling in small jabs at AMD.
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Proprietary software:
Proprietary software, non-free software (not to be confused with non-gratis, which is not free of charge), or closed-source software is computer software licensed under exclusive legal right of the copyright holder with the intent that the licensee is given the right to use the software only under certain conditions, and restricted from other uses, such as modification, sharing, studying, redistribution, or reverse engineering.[1][2] Usually the source code of proprietary software is not made available.

Examples of proprietary software include Microsoft Windows, Adobe Flash Player, PS3 OS, iTunes, Adobe Photoshop, Google Earth, Mac OS X, Skype, WinRAR, Java and some versions of Unix.

Your entire argument is based on an illusionary example of proprietary systems, which any system is a foundation of proprietary pieces, in this case software.

So back on to what you keep claiming, what major business success doesn't use proprietary systems or software?

Regarding your specific attack of nVidia, I find you only in GameWorks related threads fueling the flames against nVidia, sprinkling in small jabs at AMD.

I'll use your own example.

When you use Microsoft windows, do you have to buy a Microsoft branded PC, use only Microsoft apps, and a Microsoft branded router?

Well there ya go. I stand by what I said.
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Proprietary software:
Proprietary software, non-free software (not to be confused with non-gratis, which is not free of charge), or closed-source software is computer software licensed under exclusive legal right of the copyright holder with the intent that the licensee is given the right to use the software only under certain conditions, and restricted from other uses, such as modification, sharing, studying, redistribution, or reverse engineering.[1][2] Usually the source code of proprietary software is not made available.

Examples of proprietary software include Microsoft Windows, Adobe Flash Player, PS3 OS, iTunes, Adobe Photoshop, Google Earth, Mac OS X, Skype, WinRAR, Java and some versions of Unix.

Your entire argument is based on an illusionary example of proprietary systems, which any system is a foundation of proprietary pieces, in this case software.

So back on to what you keep claiming, what major business success doesn't use proprietary systems or software?

Regarding your specific attack of nVidia, I find you only in GameWorks related threads fueling the flames against nVidia, sprinkling in small jabs at AMD.

I'll use your own example.

When you use Microsoft windows, do you have to buy a Microsoft branded PC, use only Microsoft apps, and a Microsoft branded router?

Well there ya go. I stand by what I said.

The individual pieces are still proprietary, you can't use Windows based software on any other OS legally, and you have to use Microsoft driver model WDDM to use devices on Microsoft OS, which changes per version of OS.

Just because you can't see the proprietary relationships, doesn't mean they aren't there.

Then there is the question of Metro Apps, where they are proprietary and tied to an account, Windows OS, and rarely are side loadable.

Are you legally allowed to use DirectX off on Windows? Or are developers legally allowed to use DirectX binaries for Linux?

GameWorks isn't prevented from running on AMD hardware. nVidia are not blocking access to AMD, they are blocking access to anyone unlicensed. AMD refused to get a license and work with GameWorks, nVidia refused to work with Mantle. Side note: Intel tried to work with Mantle and AMD denied them.

So again, what successful business doesn't use proprietary software or systems?
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He's not being objective though. Tessellated hair != hairworks in 2014. Nowhere has he found any proof that hairworks was integrated in 2014 other than "he seen it, yo."

From August 2014.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/gamescom-2014-witcher-3-gameworks
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He's not being objective though. Tessellated hair != hairworks in 2014. Nowhere has he found any proof that hairworks was integrated in 2014 other than "he seen it, yo."

From August 2014.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/gamescom-2014-witcher-3-gameworks

Hairworks has been in GameWorks since the unification of GameWorks binaries around November and December 2013. It was completely black box at the time, according to nVidia that was because it was "beta" which nobody really believes. Instead we believe the out lash of developer feedback saying that was uncool and promptly provided a licensed source version in March/April 2014.
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Hairworks has been in GameWorks since the unification of GameWorks binaries around November and December 2013. It was completely black box at the time, according to nVidia that was because it was "beta" which nobody really believes. Instead we believe the out lash of developer feedback saying that was uncool and promptly provided a licensed source version in March/April 2014.

The other thing about it that's quite foggy is the pricing plan. For developers to not choose to licence the source code it must be pretty expensive. I'd imagine there is a great deal you can do with the toolset without the source code. CDRed don't have access to it (from what I read earlier in the week), yet have already improved the performance and look for HairWorks in Witcher 3 as of yesterday.
Edited by Silent Scone - 5/22/15 at 6:55am
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