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The UK government has enacted an exception to computer security legislation for the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), giving its staff immunity from prosecution for what the mainstream media likes to misidentify as 'hacking.'
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'We had previously thought [hacking] in this country to be unlawful,' Ben Jaffey of rights group Privacy International told the Guardian of the modification, which was only brought to the group's attention last week. 'The effect of this amendment has passed everyone by. Attention was not called to it during the parliamentary process, which may not have been accidental. It was hidden in plain sight.'
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'The underhand and undemocratic manner in which the Government is seeking to make lawful GCHQ's hacking operations is disgraceful,' claimed Eric King, Privacy International's deputy director, in comments to the group's blog post on the matter. 'Hacking is one of the most intrusive surveillance capabilities available to any intelligence agency, and its use and safeguards surrounding it should be the subject of proper debate. Instead, the government is continuing to neither confirm nor deny the existence of a capability it is clear they have, while changing the law under the radar, without proper parliamentary debate.'

and so it begins... tongue.gif
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So they're giving GCHQ the power to crack in retrospect. The question is what're they hiding in this law.
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So they're giving GCHQ the power to crack in retrospect. The question is what're they hiding in this law.

It's the precedent that's scary not what they're hiding.

Imagine the MPAA/RIAA doing more than dropping tracking trojans in their torrents...
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I wonder what the limitations of this is. Can they hack into a server that's based in the US?
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allowing law enforcement officials to break in to electronic systems without fear of prosecution under the Act - including laptops, desktops, servers, tablets, smartphones and electronic communications systems - requiring only that the devices targeted belong to 'suspected criminals.' The amended Act does not require that a separate court order or warrant is obtained for each inquiry, the paper has reported.
I support this. To me it sounds like, we have a warrant to search his house.... and since his computer is in his house, we can break into his computer.... understandable. Seems redundant to require a 2nd document just so you can break into something you would normally have access to if a password was not set.
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I wonder what the limitations of this is. Can they hack into a server that's based in the US?
I support this. To me it sounds like, we have a warrant to search his house.... and since his computer is in his house, we can break into his computer.... understandable. Seems redundant to require a 2nd document just so you can break into something you would normally have access to if a password was not set.

By that logic, they shouldn't need a warrant to search a locked trunk or glovebox in a car, but, they do. Passwords exist for a reason; to safeguard access. If you have to go to more difficult lengths to access something, it should require a warrant. Otherwise, where does the invasiveness stop?
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ou come on its pretty easy to go around
us agency hacks legally uk citizens, and uk agency legally hacks us citizens. then they just swap the data with each other

just like ecb buys fed bonds and fed buys ecb bonds tongue.gif

and the charade called democracy continues
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By that logic, they shouldn't need a warrant to search a locked trunk or glovebox in a car, but, they do. Passwords exist for a reason; to safeguard access. If you have to go to more difficult lengths to access something, it should require a warrant. Otherwise, where does the invasiveness stop?

That's a bad analogy because they don't need a warren't to search your car. A better analogy would be, if they HAVE a warrant to search your car, they now have the right to pick the lock for the glove compartment. ... which I agree with. If the culprits phone is in there, sure its part of the car. If his friend accidentally dropped his phone in the car (and they know it's his friend's), they would need a warrant to crack that phone because it is not the culprits property. If they just find 2 phones in there with no way to tell the difference, then it would be fair game until they are aware.

The whole thing is that, IF they have a warrant, they dont need additional warrants for the electronics. If your driving and get pulled over, and they demand to look at your phone, they cant crack it. If they had a warrant to search your house and your phone is not there, they cant crack it. Think of it like, if we get a warrant for a location, it's like a golden key that allows them to unlock anything there.

I wonder if they have a warrant to search your house for drugs or something and they spot a safe... do they need a Separate warrant to crack it?
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Harper will get right on this, nothing like the injured pride of second place to get a ball rollin'
    
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Duly elected legislators passing laws...is undemocratic how?

You may not like what they did, but that's not the same thing.
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