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Pretty much this. I have a Corsair Dom 1600C11 2x8 kit. Made gaming so much more smoother than the 2x4 kit that was on my board.

Okay now a slight rant here...

I never have understood the need for limiting the power output based on expected performance in a build list. What about the concerns of sound output and future upgradability.

A PSU that isn't pushing its limits to feed power is a cooler unit. Therefore it requires the fan to spin up less and keeps the dB level low. Which is a benefit to those who overkill on the PSU.

Overkill, guarantees that with a solid unit you shouldn't have power related BSoD when overclocking and you should have the ability to add a future GPU and its Overclock to the build.

This is Overclock.net an it's not like the PSU was a 1600w unit and intended to run a 400w system. Now THAT would indeed be overkill. smile.gif

Changing the PSU brand to a more reliable unit and maybe even increasing from 750w to 850w is certainly the way to go IMHO. But going down will certainly be cheaper except it will add to the dB level of the whole system.

So with upgradability, overclockability and sound output in mind, I would suggest either a Fully modular 850w-1000w Seasonic unit. Can't go wrong IMHO. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
CAS 11 1600? It would have made more sense to get another of whatever 2x4 kit you had instead of replacing it with what I imagine to be higher latency memory. The budget kind of dictates how much money should be allocated for RAM. At any rate, I wouldn't allocate 10% of my budget to RAM.

As for your silly rant on power supplies, sure you buy something with an eye toward the future but there's no need to get something that's rated for 650W or more if you never plan on having more than one graphics card. I also don't understand the concern about PSU fan noise. Unless every other fan in your system is nearly quiet, you probably won't hear your PSU fan. And if noise is that big of an issue, they usually make it known before people start suggesting builds.
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Last time i check power consumption is getting lower and lower so a 500WATTS Quality Unit is more than enough for a single GPU system, but when you can get an AX860 for 115$ like me then why not!
     
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Last time i check power consumption is getting lower and lower so a 500WATTS Quality Unit is more than enough for a single GPU system, but when you can get an AX860 for 115$ like me then why not!
Getting a good price on a component you don't need doesn't make it a good deal.
post #144 of 171
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Ok, so I've made some minor changes due to some of your feedback.


I updated the RAM to 2x8 instead of 2 2x4's.

Also changed out that Antec PSU for the XFX one (really wanted a fully modular power supply).


I think I'm pretty comfortable with this build right now.

Initial budget was 1000...but I'm still at a decent price point.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2LJsf7
post #145 of 171
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Ok, so I've made some minor changes due to some of your feedback.


I updated the RAM to 2x8 instead of 2 2x4's.

Also changed out that Antec PSU for the XFX one (really wanted a fully modular power supply).


I think I'm pretty comfortable with this build right now.

Initial budget was 1000...but I'm still at a decent price point.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2LJsf7
You can drop it down to the 550 watt unless you are going to add a second GTX 970 card later?
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You can drop it down to the 550 watt unless you are going to add a second GTX 970 card later?

Yea I'll keep the 650, I think it's the safer route.
post #147 of 171
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Getting a good price on a component you don't need doesn't make it a good deal.

True but parts like [Coolers,RAM,PowerSupply,HDD,SSD,Case] are usually what sticks through an upgrade so i got my self a good Coolers,RAM,PowerSupply,HDD,SSD,Case so in the next upgrade cycle i will only need to upgrade the Motherboard,CPU,GPU "Ram if we change to DDR4 soon" so when i built this computer i had future proofing as much as i can in mind so i hope these parts can last me at least 5 years if not double [At least the RAM will go in that time]
     
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Ok, so I've made some minor changes due to some of your feedback.


I updated the RAM to 2x8 instead of 2 2x4's.

Also changed out that Antec PSU for the XFX one (really wanted a fully modular power supply).


I think I'm pretty comfortable with this build right now.

Initial budget was 1000...but I'm still at a decent price point.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2LJsf7

Save more money buy buying Windows from this Reddit moderator

http://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/comments/36la6e/h_windows_7_8_81_servers_office_visio_project/

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Pretty much this. I have a Corsair Dom 1600C11 2x8 kit. Made gaming so much more smoother than the 2x4 kit that was on my board.

Okay now a slight rant here...

I never have understood the need for limiting the power output based on expected performance in a build list. What about the concerns of sound output and future upgradability.

A PSU that isn't pushing its limits to feed power is a cooler unit. Therefore it requires the fan to spin up less and keeps the dB level low. Which is a benefit to those who overkill on the PSU.

Overkill, guarantees that with a solid unit you shouldn't have power related BSoD when overclocking and you should have the ability to add a future GPU and its Overclock to the build.

This is Overclock.net an it's not like the PSU was a 1600w unit and intended to run a 400w system. Now THAT would indeed be overkill. smile.gif

Changing the PSU brand to a more reliable unit and maybe even increasing from 750w to 850w is certainly the way to go IMHO. But going down will certainly be cheaper except it will add to the dB level of the whole system.

So with upgradability, overclockability and sound output in mind, I would suggest either a Fully modular 850w-1000w Seasonic unit. Can't go wrong IMHO. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
CAS 11 1600? It would have made more sense to get another of whatever 2x4 kit you had instead of replacing it with what I imagine to be higher latency memory. The budget kind of dictates how much money should be allocated for RAM. At any rate, I wouldn't allocate 10% of my budget to RAM.

As for your silly rant on power supplies, sure you buy something with an eye toward the future but there's no need to get something that's rated for 650W or more if you never plan on having more than one graphics card. I also don't understand the concern about PSU fan noise. Unless every other fan in your system is nearly quiet, you probably won't hear your PSU fan. And if noise is that big of an issue, they usually make it known before people start suggesting builds.

Wow. blinksmiley.gif

First of all, I was relating MY experience regarding MY current RAM and at no time EVER, did I tell him to go that route. But let's address your latency comment. In this day and age low latency is pure garbage. I like low latency sticks as much as anybody, but they DON'T mean bubkis in a benchmark. So long as they are slotted appropriately for the system latency is the LAST thing to worry about. Never mind that I never suggested my kit for THIS build. There are other cheaper options that may have tighter timings. wink.gif

An I only gave my OPINION based on MY experience on which brand and why larger where the PSU is concerned. Instead of reading what I posted as being pushy(I wasn't) mebbe you should look at it and consider that mebbe builder may indeed look to upgrade system components in short order. I came at it from THAT direction after all.

Lastly I could give a rip if someone takes my advice or not. This thread is meant for input. I doubt it was started as a "look what I am gonna build an keep your otys" thread.

Attacking me over my thoughts is simply uneccessary an you now know what you can do with your bilous opinion.

Have a good day. smile.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
Edited by Ceadderman - 5/20/15 at 3:36pm
 
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Wow. blinksmiley.gif

First of all, I was relating MY experience regarding MY current RAM and at no time EVER, did I tell him to go that route. But let's address your latency comment. In this day and age low latency is pure garbage. I like low latency sticks as much as anybody, but they DON'T mean bubkis in a benchmark. So long as they are slotted appropriately for the system latency is the LAST thing to worry about. Never mind that I never suggested my kit for THIS build. There are other cheaper options that may have tighter timings. wink.gif

An I only gave my OPINION based on MY experience on which brand and why larger where the PSU is concerned. Instead of reading what I posted as being pushy(I wasn't) mebbe you should look at it and consider that mebbe builder may indeed look to upgrade system components in short order. I came at it from THAT direction after all.

Lastly I could give a rip if someone takes my advice or not. This thread is meant for input. I doubt it was started as a "look what I am gonna build an keep your otys" thread.

Attacking me over my thoughts is simply uneccessary an you now know what you can do with your bilous opinion.

Have a good day. smile.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
Low latency is more important than higher frequency. The point I was trying to make was you didn't make the best choice in your RAM upgrade.

To your opinion on power supplies, brand doesn't mean very much. The majority of power supplies are rebranded so you need to look up the OEM.
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True but parts like [Coolers,RAM,PowerSupply,HDD,SSD,Case] are usually what sticks through an upgrade so i got my self a good Coolers,RAM,PowerSupply,HDD,SSD,Case so in the next upgrade cycle i will only need to upgrade the Motherboard,CPU,GPU "Ram if we change to DDR4 soon" so when i built this computer i had future proofing as much as i can in mind so i hope these parts can last me at least 5 years if not double [At least the RAM will go in that time]
Your next build will use DDR4. If it doesn't, you didn't upgrade your motherboard or CPU (unless you get an i7-4790K or the upcoming Broadwell i7, kind of pointless). You won't really need to upgrade until maybe 9th or 10th generation Core architecture. Anything between now and then probably won't be worth it. We won't really know until we get there. And when you do, you'll probably want a new power supply. I personally won't want to use one out of warranty.
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