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Then why does the majority of gamers use i5 and i7 CPUs?

The only Xeon that is better bang for the buck is the i7 version Xeon 1231v3.

The i5 variant is more expensive usually. The Xeons are also locked and cannot be overclocked. Most people go for the i5/i7 K series so they can OC.

When it comes down to non-K i7 vs Xeon 1231v3, the Xeon is nearly $100 cheaper and is the same thing.
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post #92 of 171
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The only Xeon that is better bang for the buck is the i7 version Xeon 1231v3.

The i5 variant is more expensive usually. The Xeons are also locked and cannot be overclocked. Most people go for the i5/i7 K series so they can OC.

When it comes down to non-K i7 vs Xeon 1231v3, the Xeon is nearly $100 cheaper and is the same thing.

My question still stands on the 4790 then. There is absolutely no reason for the 4790 to exist apart from the integrated graphics which 100 bucks seems like a steep price tag for. I'm genuinely curious, but I never really got an honest answer like this one with all the rude BS posted until now. Thanks smile.gif
 
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post #93 of 171
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Thank you!


I have edited it. smile.gif


PSU is pretty decent but you can do better for your money. You also only NEED 450W for that system.

However,

For cheaper (after MIR) You can get this

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220gs0650v1

Based on the Seasonic G series, a better unit.
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post #94 of 171
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My question still stands on the 4790 then. There is absolutely no reason for the 4790 to exist apart from the integrated graphics which 100 bucks seems like a steep price tag for. I'm genuinely curious, but I never really got an honest answer like this one with all the rude BS posted until now. Thanks smile.gif

I suppose it is just the integrated graphics. There are some people who may need the power of the i7 but don't need very much GPU horsepower, in which case it could work.

Even so, you could still buy the Xeon and grab a cheap GPU and it would still be for less. I don't really know, but you're right there is no reason for it to exist.

Maybe space saving? no idea.
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post #95 of 171
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I won't overclock it most likely, but I still would prefer the CPU to be cool especially when I'm gaming for hours straight.
Then get the Xeon. It's made on the best silicon wafers Intel has, and will tend to run cooler for that reason. The Xeon is basically the same consumer Haswell chip, but tested and certified to a higher standard. I'd rather run a Xeon on its stock cooler than a non-OC consumer chip with an aftermarket cooler.
     
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post #96 of 171
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If you're happy with using a CPU that is optimized for servers for gaming, good for you buddy. But for the same money or even a little more, I'd choose the one that is produced for gamers any day. If Xeons were the only choice, sure. But what a time to be alive when you can choose a CPU that is made for gaming if you want to play games.

This made me laugh, dude you are trolling hard.

I suppose you buy 'gaming' motherboards, gamer power supplies and gamer ram because it's all designed for gamers and gives you more frames per second.

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post #97 of 171
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My question still stands on the 4790 then. There is absolutely no reason for the 4790 to exist apart from the integrated graphics which 100 bucks seems like a steep price tag for. I'm genuinely curious, but I never really got an honest answer like this one with all the rude BS posted until now. Thanks smile.gif
I said several pages ago the processors were the same but i7's have integrated graphics.
post #98 of 171
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My question still stands on the 4790 then. There is absolutely no reason for the 4790 to exist apart from the integrated graphics which 100 bucks seems like a steep price tag for. I'm genuinely curious, but I never really got an honest answer like this one with all the rude BS posted until now. Thanks smile.gif

To a certain extent it is just the igpu. I did some research a while back because I too had the same question. I compared many different cpus with similar specs. Obviously the only difference was that one had an igpu and one did not.

I priced the igpu out to be on average 50 bucks.

Now here is where chess has things messed up. The 1231 v3 is NOT the same as a 4790. It is the same-ish as a 4770 which is why it is another 50 bucks cheaper.

The other thing I want to point out to everyone is that the xeon IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CONSUMER CHIP. It has similar performance, but it actually does have other bells and whistles on the chip that make it a xeon.


Here is the bottom line. People need to get it out of their heads that the xeon is a budget i7. It is not. They are not randomly interchangeable.

Xeon chips are totally different processors with their own pros and cons that need to be weighed just like everything else.
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post #99 of 171
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This made me laugh, dude you are trolling hard.

I suppose you buy 'gaming' motherboards, gamer power supplies and gamer ram because it's all designed for gamers and gives you more frames per second.

rolleyes.gif

I'm happy it amuses you that people who don't buy Xeon CPUs are apparently trolls. I guess I'm an idiot for buying hardware that is optimized for the purposes of the things I'll use my computer for. And don't get ahead of yourself, my other components are not because they're "gaming" hardware by any means.

I love how you're all calling me an ignorant troll just because I want to know why the Xeon is better other than it being cheaper because it doesn't have integrated graphics. Even after I admit that it's weird they would even make i5 and i7s for gaming purposes I'm still called out for nothing. I'm really sad that so many OCN users have turned into arrogant ****s who get passive aggressive at others who don't completely agree with them. If you have any further comments, feel free to PM me and I will answer you. I think we've gone way too much off-topic and it apparently doesn't contribute to the topic to be geniunely curious. I guess some of you guys just have to vent on some forum to feel better about yourselves. Have a nice day, I'm going to bed since it's very late where I live.
 
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To a certain extent it is just the igpu. I did some research a while back because I too had the same question. I compared many different cpus with similar specs. Obviously the only difference was that one had an igpu and one did not.

I priced the igpu out to be on average 50 bucks.

Now here is where chess has things messed up. The 1231 v3 is NOT the same as a 4790. It is the same-ish as a 4770 which is why it is another 50 bucks cheaper.

The other thing I want to point out to everyone is that the xeon IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CONSUMER CHIP. It has similar performance, but it actually does have other bells and whistles on the chip that make it a xeon.


Here is the bottom line. People need to get it out of their heads that the xeon is a budget i7. It is not. They are not randomly interchangeable.

Xeon chips are totally different processors with their own pros and cons that need to be weighed just like everything else.

The Xeon only has additional extras, it doesn't drop any of the features(Aside from iGPU) that the normal consumer chips have, yes?

In which case that should make the value better, but it's not like most people are going to make use of that stuff anyway.
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