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The only way to find out is just to wait until it finally gets released or when AMD makes an official announcement revealing the actual specifications. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up having a 4GBs VRAM capacity.
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I'm not sure what I believe but huge sites like guru3d, arstechnica, extremetech, pcper, semiaccurate etc. came out today and said that the thing is 4GB.
It would suck if it was 4GB considering they are targeting this at 4K. For new titles post DX11 that may not be a problem when DX12 allegedly does aways with memory mirroring that SLI and CF do today. Still it would be a shame.
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Despite the fact that HBM will provide significantly faster bandwidth, the 4GBs VRAM capacity is still a joke. A GPU from a new lineup should be an upgrade in every regard and specification. I have a feeling that my 290X will last me for a much longer period than I have initially thought, mostly because GPU manufacturers are constantly putting out overpriced crap while game developers are not optimizing their games and releasing them downgraded and with numerous performance issues. When reasonable GPUs will be released and when developers will finally start optimizing their games properly, maybe then I will upgrade my GPU or build a new system entirely. I feel like none of this is worth any of my time or money.

I hate to use Arstechnica, garbage site. But

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/the-tech-behind-hbm-why-amds-high-bandwidth-memory-matters/2/
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AMD's CTO, Joe Macri, explained the 4GB limitation to Ars in a telephone call:

"You're not limited in this world to any number of stacks, but from a capacity point of view, this generation-one HBM, each DRAM is a two-gigabit DRAM, so yeah, if you have four stacks you're limited to four gigabytes. You could build things with more stacks, you could build things with less stacks. Capacity of the frame buffer is just one of our concerns. There are many things you can do to utilise that capacity better. So if you have four stacks you're limited to four [gigabytes], but we don't really view that as a performance limitation from an AMD perspective."

"If you actually look at frame buffers and how efficient they are and how efficient the drivers are at managing capacities across the resolutions, you'll find that there's a lot that can be done. We do not see 4GB as a limitation that would cause performance bottlenecks. We just need to do a better job managing the capacities. We were getting free capacity, because with [GDDR5] in order to get more bandwidth we needed to make the memory system wider, so the capacities were increasing. As engineers, we always focus on where the bottleneck is. If you're getting capacity, you don't put as much effort into better utilising that capacity. 4GB is more than sufficient. We've had to go do a little bit of investment in order to better utilise the frame buffer, but we're not really seeing a frame buffer capacity [problem]. You'll be blown away by how much [capacity] is wasted."
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not buying it. I will go as far as say that if amd doesnt fix their drivers and being constantly late with them on game releases I will spend that money but on a titan x not a fiji whatever 849 piece of hardware they come out with.
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This is sheer insanity. Price fixing... duopoly... sue both these clowns if true. I'm out, this pricing increase is ridiculous and seemingly to stay. Titan owners and their undiscerning wallets win, this is the market they've created.
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This is so stupid. Someone needs to put an end to this craze.

   
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"4GB is more than sufficient." Why are they planning on releasing the 290X rebrands with 8 GB then?
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As Knuck pointed out, games front load memory usage because there is an excess amount available to them, improvements in efficiency can actually be better than just slapping more RAM on the card.

Only the benches will tell the true tale though. One month to go.
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"4GB is more than sufficient." Why are they planning on releasing the 290X rebrands with 8 GB then?

Because Hawaii doesn't have the bandwidth to manage the frame buffer capacity in the same way that Fiji will have, so it'll keep loading the ram heavily to prevent any possible stutter.
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"4GB is more than sufficient." Why are they planning on releasing the 290X rebrands with 8 GB then?

Maybe their color compression is better than we thought. If drivers have helped Tonga this much, then 4 gb may in fact be enough.

I'm not getting my hopes up however. I'll have to see performance numbers first. Prices too.
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Maybe their color compression is better than we thought. If drivers have helped Tonga this much, then 4 gb may in fact be enough.

I'm not getting my hopes up however. I'll have to see performance numbers first. Prices too.

But the 285 rebranded to 380 has 4 GB of VRAM instead of 2 GB...
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