Originally Posted by MadRabbit
If it's on par with the new Titan, I don't see the problem?
Well it comes out 3 months later and people always rather buy Nvidia products than AMD if they are at roughly the same price point. Take a look at the 290X. It's probably the best high end budget card you can buy currently, but 9 out of 10 people still buy either a 970 or even 980. (In most forums and websites I visit). Out of 8 of my friends I am the only one with an AMD card. People are way different than this forum. A good friend of me asked me 2 months ago "Hey what is the best Nvidia card I can buy for 200€?". He didn't even consider AMD.
The only reason I see the ne high end Fiji card being priced at 850$ is because it is very limited and AMD wants to cash in the few extra $. I'm pretty sure AMD knows that can't get away with a card that expensive in the long run. Well maybe if it is like 15% better than the Titan X, but I don't see that happening.
If you are ready to pay 850$ on a GPU then you are also in the Titan X price range. It's not like "oohh 150$ extra bucks is so much I can't afford it".
For me it looks like the following (pure speculation on my part) :
1) Fiji High End GPU launches at 850$, because it is very limited stock and AMD wants to profit as much as possible from the few cards they have ready.
2) Fiji High End GPU launches at 850$ has 8GB HBM and is on par with Titan X. It will sell okay-ish, but Titan X will probably still sell better even at 1000$.
3) Fiji High End GPU launches at 850$ has 4GB HBM and performs on par with Titan X. Price cut immenent because it is hard to sell a 850$ High end gpu with 4GB Vram even if it is HBM.
4) Fiji High End GPU launches at less than 850$ performs roughly the same as Titan X and has either 4GB or 8GB. It sells well like the 290X did when it launched at 550$ and was better than the vanilla Titan for 1000$, but doesn't sell super well like the 970 currently does.
5) Fiji High End GPU launches at 850$ has 8GB HBM Vram and destroys the Titan X. Everyone buys and stock is depleted.
What I think is most likely? Fiji High End GPU launches at 799$-849$ with 8GB HBM and performs on par with Titan X (5% + -). AMD can meet demand, but as time progresses the price goes down. After the 980 Ti releases at 749$ AMD slashes prices of Fiji High End GPU to 650$ since they have refilled stocks.