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You are all getting angry at a company that has actually broken some new ground on a product,
and are charging a premium on new tech....
At least they have something new unlike the Titan X which is the same old GDDR5


Its like getting angry when a new car comes out and it costs more than the previous model ?!?!
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If it's on par with the new Titan, I don't see the problem? rolleyes.gif

Well it comes out 3 months later and people always rather buy Nvidia products than AMD if they are at roughly the same price point. Take a look at the 290X. It's probably the best high end budget card you can buy currently, but 9 out of 10 people still buy either a 970 or even 980. (In most forums and websites I visit). Out of 8 of my friends I am the only one with an AMD card. People are way different than this forum. A good friend of me asked me 2 months ago "Hey what is the best Nvidia card I can buy for 200€?". He didn't even consider AMD.


The only reason I see the ne high end Fiji card being priced at 850$ is because it is very limited and AMD wants to cash in the few extra $. I'm pretty sure AMD knows that can't get away with a card that expensive in the long run. Well maybe if it is like 15% better than the Titan X, but I don't see that happening.

If you are ready to pay 850$ on a GPU then you are also in the Titan X price range. It's not like "oohh 150$ extra bucks is so much I can't afford it".

For me it looks like the following (pure speculation on my part) :


1) Fiji High End GPU launches at 850$, because it is very limited stock and AMD wants to profit as much as possible from the few cards they have ready.

2) Fiji High End GPU launches at 850$ has 8GB HBM and is on par with Titan X. It will sell okay-ish, but Titan X will probably still sell better even at 1000$.

3) Fiji High End GPU launches at 850$ has 4GB HBM and performs on par with Titan X. Price cut immenent because it is hard to sell a 850$ High end gpu with 4GB Vram even if it is HBM.

4) Fiji High End GPU launches at less than 850$ performs roughly the same as Titan X and has either 4GB or 8GB. It sells well like the 290X did when it launched at 550$ and was better than the vanilla Titan for 1000$, but doesn't sell super well like the 970 currently does.

5) Fiji High End GPU launches at 850$ has 8GB HBM Vram and destroys the Titan X. Everyone buys and stock is depleted.


What I think is most likely? Fiji High End GPU launches at 799$-849$ with 8GB HBM and performs on par with Titan X (5% + -). AMD can meet demand, but as time progresses the price goes down. After the 980 Ti releases at 749$ AMD slashes prices of Fiji High End GPU to 650$ since they have refilled stocks.


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If you are ready to pay 850$ on a GPU then you are also in the Titan X price range. It's not like "oohh 150$ extra bucks is so much I can't afford it".

This part is so untrue it's not even funny. Either you're just mad at your money or just lousy taking care of your finances.

If you can get something as good as for cheaper, get it. (Considering people who didn't buy into the Titan already...)

I actually have more than a grand free cash, that doesn't mean I'm willing to pay more just because "TITAN!!1111".
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1k too much for Titan but people still bought them like hotcackes and now when (and if) AMD releases an product on par for less is too much all of the sudden? Give me a break.
The problem that people have is that if both companies release their best cards around $1000, then the average enthusiast can no longer afford or is willing to pay for the best. This is essentially NVIDIA setting the price of entry to top of the line too high and AMD playing along for the cash/reputation. It's a bit messed up since they have a duopoly and can cohort to price fix.
 
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1k too much for Titan but people still bought them like hotcackes and now when (and if) AMD releases an product on par for less is too much all of the sudden? Give me a break.

Did you miss the hundreds of posts complaining about the Titan price? Complaining about $750+ card pricing is not all of a sudden.
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Did you miss the hundreds of posts complaining about the Titan price? Complaining about $750+ card pricing is not all of a sudden.

I saw the posts and now I see a few who bought anyway...that's called being an hypocrite.
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This part is so untrue it's not even funny. Either you're just mad at your money or just lousy taking care of your finances.

If you can get something as good as for cheaper, get it. (Considering people who didn't buy into the Titan already...)

I actually have more than a grand free cash, that doesn't mean I'm willing to pay more just because "TITAN!!1111".

Well there will be difference between the 390X and the Titan X. You can't compare them as exact same card and oh boy are you wrong. Nvidia enthusiast are ready to pay double the money for an Nvidia product. You are trying to apply logic to it, but it isn't quite how it works. If we go by logic then Nvidia wouldn't sell a single 980 or Titan X. But hey the still sell well
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Well there will be difference between the 390X and the Titan X. You can't compare them as exact same card and oh boy are you wrong. Nvidia enthusiast are ready to pay double the money for an Nvidia product. You are trying to apply logic to it, but it isn't quite how it works. If we go by logic then Nvidia wouldn't sell a single 980 or Titan X. But hey the still sell well

That's the point. I can't compare them as NONE of us have actually anything to go by to compare them. As you said, I was just making an "logic" comparsion. thumb.gif

Also to add, even if it is on par with the TX, that's exactly why AMD would price it lower, even tho using more advanced tech, brand recognition.
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It's not like "oohh 150$ extra bucks is so much I can't afford it".

I see this sort of argument all the time. I've been meaning to point out somewhere that it isn't necessarily logical. Everyone has a limit, and people might already be beyond their comfortable maximum when they consider buying an $850 video card. The extra $150 may very well be enough to make it unreasonable. Let us not pretend that people who aren't wealthy do not occasionally buy expensive things.
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I see this sort of argument all the time. I've been meaning to point out somewhere that it isn't necessarily logical. Everyone has a limit, and people might already be beyond their comfortable maximum when they consider buying an $850 video card. The extra $150 may very well be enough to make it unreasonable. Let us not pretend that people who aren't wealthy do not occasionally buy expensive things.

yeah most people have a budget. 150$ is a lot when you buy a 200$ GPU, but not when you buy a 850$ gpu.

I am also not talking for all people, but most.
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