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[WCCF]Witcher 3 Benchmarked, GTX Titan Does 30FPS At 1080P And Ultra Settings

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The not so good news however is that if you're an owner of a GeForce GTX 700 series card you will need to turn the settings considerably down to attain playable framerates. Because unfortunately just as I had mentioned at the beginning of the article. A GeForce GTX Titan only manages an average of 30 FPS, which is really just one FPS ahead of the R9 285. In fact all Nvidia Kepler GPUs ( 600 series and 700 series ) show almost catastrophically poor performance. If you look at the GTX 660 for example, which is a card that competes with AMD's R9 270, it's nearly performing at half the rate of the slightly faster R9 270X with a 13.6 FPS average compared to the 24.2 FPS average of the 270X.
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The GTX Titan and GTX 780 also perform quite poorly, falling behind their Radeon counterparts the 290X and 290 by nearly 50%. We see this trend with older graphics cards from Nvidia's GTX 500 series and AMD's HD 6000 series as well. Which indicates that Nvidia's Game Ready drivers are only optimized for Maxwell based GTX 900 series products. And will need some serious optimization work to bring the Kepler based 600 and 700 series products up to par.
On the Radeon side we actually see surprisingly strong performance for an Nvidia partnered title. The results are more inline with how the cards would normally stack up against the competition. With the R9 290 and 290X cards performing similarly to the factory overclocked GTX 970 from MSI. And the R9 285 performing similarly to the GTX 960.
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#2 ·
So, technically speaking, Nvidia is not gimping Kepler. But, if Gameworks titles are only optimized from the start to favor the newer Nvidia architecture over GK110, and any further driver enhancements are only focused on GM204 and GM200, doesn't this put any GK110 owners (and Kepler owners) in the same position of being "gimped". The message is very clear from Nvidia, upgrade when the new cards come out, or loose optimization support. It doesn't matter if someone bought a Titan Black in Feb/Mar 2014 (when it was released) by dropping $1k on an Nvidia card, they would have only received a few months of driver optimization support until Sep 2014 when 980 was released.
How does this math work out for Nvidia's customers who pay the highest price for their cards? I guess the justification is, if they can afford to pay $1k for a card once for a few months of driver optimization support, they can be expected to pay another $1k to upgrade to the top end card of the next gen..... lol

Milking the top end of the customers is nothing new...
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But, this takes it to the level of where one feels like taking a bath (to get the slime off) after making a proverbial handshake with Nvidia by buying their top end GPU.... lol
 
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They way I see it, you are screwed either way. Either you go team GREEN and get short lived propper support that lasts only until their next architecture, or you go team RED and wait for months for a game driver.
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I can foresee how enraged the TITAN X owners will get in only a fews days after Pascal arrives.
 
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Originally Posted by Oslo View Post

a 780 below a 960 and a r9 285... what a funny time to live in
It's been a long standing joke since Maxwell came out that the r9-280x is getting "stronger and stronger" with every game release. mostly because Nvidia seems to be either "forgetting" or straight up "gimping" kepler cards in new game releases, with the result being the r9-280x leap frogging stronger Kepler cards in performance.

This is unfortunately just a continuation of the trend.

something to keep in mind if you buy nvidia in the future i guess. they'll only support the current gen cards with their drivers.
 
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Originally Posted by The Prodigy View Post

No matter what settings i try, my 780 ti wont get over 45 fps...kinda sucks when I have this new Acer 144hz monitor...
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hopefully some driver release will bump the older cards up, but for some reason, I doubt it.
Exactly the same miserable boat
 
#11 ·
I'm not sure I buy the 'drivers need optimizing line' they are optimized for everything else. So a GTX Titan is not powerful enough and can only get 30FPS without so called optimized drivers for one specific title. Many other games run perfectly fine and drivers don't need to be optimized for every single game out there. Really if it was a decent game it should run fine on existing drivers.
And like AMD cards if you turn off the Game Works features that should not be an issue for 700 series or Titan. Marketing spin I'm not sure but it's not good.
 
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Originally Posted by GTR Mclaren View Post

Just get the PS4 version, it looks the same and it runs better than some $400 gpu´s....

CDPR really dropped the ball in performance, they need to patch the game fast
its easy to get 30fps on pc, cant say the same for console cos sometimes is a stutterfest

i was expecting for a decent performance from them...
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the old had issues too but it was possible to increase the frame rate by disable some settings
 
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Originally Posted by h2spartan View Post

Titan's are old. I mean you can't expect miracles anymore with that old architecture, But i'm sure they'll be able to squeeze a few more fps out of them as drivers mature for Witcher 3 and as cdpr releases patches.
The 290x is old too, that hasn't stopped AMD. Look at how the 700 series is doing compared to AMD's cards in the Witcher 3, then look at how they did in previous titles. The 700 series cards are not optimised for this game. Scarily unoptimised.

It makes you really stop and think of just how much control GPU manufacturers have over the performance of their cards due to drivers. Kind of makes you wish that GPUs were capable of Out of Order Executions like CPUs so they didn't have to rely on software quite so much.. Stupid parallelisation..
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Originally Posted by d0mini View Post

The 290x is old too, that hasn't stopped AMD. Look at how the 700 series is doing compared to AMD's cards in the Witcher 3, then look at how they did in previous titles. The 700 series cards are not optimised for this game. Scarily unoptimised.

It makes you really stop and think of just how much control GPU manufacturers have over the performance of their cards due to drivers. Kind of makes you wish that GPUs were capable of Out of Order Executions like CPUs so they didn't have to rely on software quite so much.. Stupid parallelisation..
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The future is in GPUs that can do CPU tasks and operations. Cluster processing is the inevitable future. You can't keep making traditional processors and expect them to become more powerful. With a system clearly optimized around cluster based processing you can expect returns equal to nearly a hundred times our current potential. Imagine having 1000 tiny cores on a processor with VISC where those 1000 cores can work together and become 1 giant core for one big task or become 1000 tiny core for 1000 tiny tasks.

Many ways to do this.

VISC, Morph Cores, you name it!
 
#22 ·
If there is truth to this idk that i'll ever go green again. I went with 780 Classys over 290x because of how high they can clock and i got them for a good price used. One with a block already on it. This is absurd though. So far i'm inclined to agree with the source, i'm getting 20-40fps, granted i'm running hairworks on everything.

My next build if things live up to their potential is likely Zen based AM4, and whatever GPUs AMD has at the time.

Something isn't right that much is sure, the 970/290/290x smoking GK110...BS either the green team is pulling strings or CDPR horribly optimized but i don't think it's both.
 
#24 ·
*pets 980 and runs at Ultra @ 60fps solid*
 
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post

*pets 980 and runs at Ultra @ 60fps solid*
Pet it while you can. Soon as next architecture releases Nvidia will leave your GPU behind.
 
#26 ·
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Originally Posted by The Prodigy View Post

No matter what settings i try, my 780 ti wont get over 45 fps...kinda sucks when I have this new Acer 144hz monitor...
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hopefully some driver release will bump the older cards up, but for some reason, I doubt it.
I'll have to try this on my GTX 780Ti and GTX 970 rigs and report back. (1080P) The game is also running ok with my Crossfire R9 290X and destroying my 4k setup lol.
 
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